34% of likely voters
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wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 13:56 last edited by
I think the protest folks are overplaying their hand.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 13:57 last edited by
@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
Still think I'm nuts?
Goes to show how little confidence the GOP voters have in Trump being able to unite the country and/or keep the peace.
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@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
Still think I'm nuts?
Goes to show how little confidence the GOP voters have in Trump being able to unite the country and/or keep the peace.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 14:06 last edited by@Axtremus said in 34% of likely voters:
@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
Still think I'm nuts?
Goes to show how little confidence the GOP voters have in Trump being able to unite the country and/or keep the peace.
I've got my AR and SKS. HP, Ball and AP stocked.
What about you, soy boy?
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@Axtremus said in 34% of likely voters:
@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
Still think I'm nuts?
Goes to show how little confidence the GOP voters have in Trump being able to unite the country and/or keep the peace.
I've got my AR and SKS. HP, Ball and AP stocked.
What about you, soy boy?
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 14:14 last edited by@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
I've got my AR and SKS. HP, Ball and AP stocked.
What about you
The following video and the moral high ground.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 14:37 last edited by
@Jolly I do not think you are nuts at all. I think you are a very smart person, with a wide wide range of interests and knowledge.
BUT, I do not think there will be a civil war.
I think i have mention before, but when you see things from a 10000 meter view, things in the US are really really good. There just isn't enough anger/rage/emotion to sustain a civil war. Will there be protests? Yes. We have see that.
People in teh US just dont have it bad enough to sustain that emotion needed. I used the example of Hong Kong - in a territory of 7.5MM, they were getting a million people in the streets day after day after day. I just dont see that happening in teh US. People have it too good to keep that going.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 14:37 last edited by Jolly
A 123g AP at 2350fps and 1500ftlbs energy will go through an engine block like butter and put a nice hole through the protoplasm on the opposite side, approximately .311 inches in diameter.
There is a difference between cover and concealment. Remember that when you're shouting platitudes at the guy trying to draw a bead on you.
Now, having said that, I would exhort any and all of the folks on the Left side of the aisle to cool their jets, ditch the victim cards and try to understand that not everybody is a cowering ward of the state. At some point, oppressed people do fight back. The Left is currently very actively suppressing those they do not agree with, by both nonviolent and violent means.
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@Jolly I do not think you are nuts at all. I think you are a very smart person, with a wide wide range of interests and knowledge.
BUT, I do not think there will be a civil war.
I think i have mention before, but when you see things from a 10000 meter view, things in the US are really really good. There just isn't enough anger/rage/emotion to sustain a civil war. Will there be protests? Yes. We have see that.
People in teh US just dont have it bad enough to sustain that emotion needed. I used the example of Hong Kong - in a territory of 7.5MM, they were getting a million people in the streets day after day after day. I just dont see that happening in teh US. People have it too good to keep that going.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 14:40 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in 34% of likely voters:
@Jolly I do not think you are nuts at all. I think you are a very smart person, with a wide wide range of interests and knowledge.
BUT, I do not think there will be a civil war.
I think i have mention before, but when you see things from a 10000 meter view, things in the US are really really good. There just isn't enough anger/rage/emotion to sustain a civil war. Will there be protests? Yes. We have see that.
People in teh US just dont have it bad enough to sustain that emotion needed. I used the example of Hong Kong - in a territory of 7.5MM, they were getting a million people in the streets day after day after day. I just dont see that happening in teh US. People have it too good to keep that going.
Stuff like this turns on a dime. Flashpoints are called that for a reason.
On an individual note, I've seen a lot of GSW victims in my time. The most common sentiment among many of them? I never thought he/she would do that!
Groups of people are even less predictable than individuals. Think on that...
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@Jolly I do not think you are nuts at all. I think you are a very smart person, with a wide wide range of interests and knowledge.
BUT, I do not think there will be a civil war.
I think i have mention before, but when you see things from a 10000 meter view, things in the US are really really good. There just isn't enough anger/rage/emotion to sustain a civil war. Will there be protests? Yes. We have see that.
People in teh US just dont have it bad enough to sustain that emotion needed. I used the example of Hong Kong - in a territory of 7.5MM, they were getting a million people in the streets day after day after day. I just dont see that happening in teh US. People have it too good to keep that going.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:00 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in 34% of likely voters:
I do not think there will be a civil war.
TG, for most of my life I believed as you do. From Nov 9, 2016 forward, I have concluded, however reluctantly, that anything can happen, anything at all. And none of it would be a surprise.
What little capacity for shock and surprise that was left in me after 9/11 got used up in November of 2016. Increasingly I am feeling like the Little Prince, sitting on my remote planet and observing events.
Anything can happen now.
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@taiwan_girl said in 34% of likely voters:
I do not think there will be a civil war.
TG, for most of my life I believed as you do. From Nov 9, 2016 forward, I have concluded, however reluctantly, that anything can happen, anything at all. And none of it would be a surprise.
What little capacity for shock and surprise that was left in me after 9/11 got used up in November of 2016. Increasingly I am feeling like the Little Prince, sitting on my remote planet and observing events.
Anything can happen now.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:11 last edited by@Catseye3 said in 34% of likely voters:
@taiwan_girl said in 34% of likely voters:
I do not think there will be a civil war.
TG, for most of my life I believed as you do. From Nov 9, 2016 forward, I have concluded, however reluctantly, that anything can happen, anything at all. And none of it would be a surprise.
What little capacity for shock and surprise that was left in me after 9/11 got used up in November of 2016. Increasingly I am feeling like the Little Prince, sitting on my remote planet and observing events.
Anything can happen now.
Butterfly effect? Hand of God? Kismet?
Control is an illusion. Man does not have control, except in the individual and then only those things he actually does have control over. Entropy is always at work...Man always engages in the Sisyphian effort of building stable societies and empires, but forgets that the hill and the boulder reside in an imperfect Hades. An imperfect being tries to create the perfect world, and we wonder why it always comes apart...Silly us...
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@Catseye3 said in 34% of likely voters:
@taiwan_girl said in 34% of likely voters:
I do not think there will be a civil war.
TG, for most of my life I believed as you do. From Nov 9, 2016 forward, I have concluded, however reluctantly, that anything can happen, anything at all. And none of it would be a surprise.
What little capacity for shock and surprise that was left in me after 9/11 got used up in November of 2016. Increasingly I am feeling like the Little Prince, sitting on my remote planet and observing events.
Anything can happen now.
Butterfly effect? Hand of God? Kismet?
Control is an illusion. Man does not have control, except in the individual and then only those things he actually does have control over. Entropy is always at work...Man always engages in the Sisyphian effort of building stable societies and empires, but forgets that the hill and the boulder reside in an imperfect Hades. An imperfect being tries to create the perfect world, and we wonder why it always comes apart...Silly us...
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:13 last edited by@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
@Catseye3 said in 34% of likely voters:
@taiwan_girl said in 34% of likely voters:
I do not think there will be a civil war.
TG, for most of my life I believed as you do. From Nov 9, 2016 forward, I have concluded, however reluctantly, that anything can happen, anything at all. And none of it would be a surprise.
What little capacity for shock and surprise that was left in me after 9/11 got used up in November of 2016. Increasingly I am feeling like the Little Prince, sitting on my remote planet and observing events.
Anything can happen now.
Butterfly effect? Hand of God? Kismet?
Control is an illusion. Man does not have control, except in the individual and then only those things he actually does have control over. Entropy is always at work...Man always engages in the Sisyphian effort of building stable societies and empires, but forgets that the hill and the boulder reside in an imperfect Hades. An imperfect being tries to create the perfect world, and we wonder why it always comes apart...Silly us...
We keep getting better at it, though.
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@Catseye3 said in 34% of likely voters:
@taiwan_girl said in 34% of likely voters:
I do not think there will be a civil war.
TG, for most of my life I believed as you do. From Nov 9, 2016 forward, I have concluded, however reluctantly, that anything can happen, anything at all. And none of it would be a surprise.
What little capacity for shock and surprise that was left in me after 9/11 got used up in November of 2016. Increasingly I am feeling like the Little Prince, sitting on my remote planet and observing events.
Anything can happen now.
Butterfly effect? Hand of God? Kismet?
Control is an illusion. Man does not have control, except in the individual and then only those things he actually does have control over. Entropy is always at work...Man always engages in the Sisyphian effort of building stable societies and empires, but forgets that the hill and the boulder reside in an imperfect Hades. An imperfect being tries to create the perfect world, and we wonder why it always comes apart...Silly us...
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:14 last edited by Catseye3@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
Sisyphian effort of building stable societies . . .
Sisyphian or not, illusory or not, man largely operates within the society he has familiarity with and derives comfort in. It gets uncomfortable when that is ripped away.
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@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
Sisyphian effort of building stable societies . . .
Sisyphian or not, illusory or not, man largely operates within the society he has familiarity with and derives comfort in. It gets uncomfortable when that is ripped away.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:17 last edited by@Catseye3 said in 34% of likely voters:
@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
Sisyphian effort of building stable societies . . .
Sisyphian or not, illusory or not, man largely operates within the society he has familiarity with and derives comfort in. It get uncomfortable when that is ripped away.
Of course, which is why those who have a stable enough view of life can either weather the storm or surf the waves of Chaos.
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@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
@Catseye3 said in 34% of likely voters:
@taiwan_girl said in 34% of likely voters:
I do not think there will be a civil war.
TG, for most of my life I believed as you do. From Nov 9, 2016 forward, I have concluded, however reluctantly, that anything can happen, anything at all. And none of it would be a surprise.
What little capacity for shock and surprise that was left in me after 9/11 got used up in November of 2016. Increasingly I am feeling like the Little Prince, sitting on my remote planet and observing events.
Anything can happen now.
Butterfly effect? Hand of God? Kismet?
Control is an illusion. Man does not have control, except in the individual and then only those things he actually does have control over. Entropy is always at work...Man always engages in the Sisyphian effort of building stable societies and empires, but forgets that the hill and the boulder reside in an imperfect Hades. An imperfect being tries to create the perfect world, and we wonder why it always comes apart...Silly us...
We keep getting better at it, though.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:19 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in 34% of likely voters:
@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
@Catseye3 said in 34% of likely voters:
@taiwan_girl said in 34% of likely voters:
I do not think there will be a civil war.
TG, for most of my life I believed as you do. From Nov 9, 2016 forward, I have concluded, however reluctantly, that anything can happen, anything at all. And none of it would be a surprise.
What little capacity for shock and surprise that was left in me after 9/11 got used up in November of 2016. Increasingly I am feeling like the Little Prince, sitting on my remote planet and observing events.
Anything can happen now.
Butterfly effect? Hand of God? Kismet?
Control is an illusion. Man does not have control, except in the individual and then only those things he actually does have control over. Entropy is always at work...Man always engages in the Sisyphian effort of building stable societies and empires, but forgets that the hill and the boulder reside in an imperfect Hades. An imperfect being tries to create the perfect world, and we wonder why it always comes apart...Silly us...
We keep getting better at it, though.
Debatable.
We are technologically more capable. We cure disease in previously unthinkable ways, but ancient man probably couldn't even wrap his mind around the concept of thermonuclear war.
So the question becomes...Is modern society actually better, or just different?
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@Catseye3 said in 34% of likely voters:
@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
Sisyphian effort of building stable societies . . .
Sisyphian or not, illusory or not, man largely operates within the society he has familiarity with and derives comfort in. It get uncomfortable when that is ripped away.
Of course, which is why those who have a stable enough view of life can either weather the storm or surf the waves of Chaos.
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@Catseye3 said in 34% of likely voters:
@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
Sisyphian effort of building stable societies . . .
Sisyphian or not, illusory or not, man largely operates within the society he has familiarity with and derives comfort in. It get uncomfortable when that is ripped away.
Of course, which is why those who have a stable enough view of life can either weather the storm or surf the waves of Chaos.
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:27 last edited by Catseye3@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
Of course, which is why those who have a stable enough view of life can either weather the storm or surf the waves of Chaos.
Whatever the fuck that means. The concept of stability of life view is subjective. There are numberless permutations.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:34 last edited by
As I’ve said before, you’re not nuts, you’re just sentimental.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 15:37 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in 34% of likely voters:
As I’ve said before, you’re not nuts, you’re just
sentimentalprophetic.FIFY.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 16:01 last edited by
Sentimental.
The military is very different today than it was in 1861.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in 34% of likely voters:
@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
@Catseye3 said in 34% of likely voters:
@taiwan_girl said in 34% of likely voters:
I do not think there will be a civil war.
TG, for most of my life I believed as you do. From Nov 9, 2016 forward, I have concluded, however reluctantly, that anything can happen, anything at all. And none of it would be a surprise.
What little capacity for shock and surprise that was left in me after 9/11 got used up in November of 2016. Increasingly I am feeling like the Little Prince, sitting on my remote planet and observing events.
Anything can happen now.
Butterfly effect? Hand of God? Kismet?
Control is an illusion. Man does not have control, except in the individual and then only those things he actually does have control over. Entropy is always at work...Man always engages in the Sisyphian effort of building stable societies and empires, but forgets that the hill and the boulder reside in an imperfect Hades. An imperfect being tries to create the perfect world, and we wonder why it always comes apart...Silly us...
We keep getting better at it, though.
Debatable.
We are technologically more capable. We cure disease in previously unthinkable ways, but ancient man probably couldn't even wrap his mind around the concept of thermonuclear war.
So the question becomes...Is modern society actually better, or just different?
wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 16:23 last edited by@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
@Aqua-Letifer said in 34% of likely voters:
@Jolly said in 34% of likely voters:
@Catseye3 said in 34% of likely voters:
@taiwan_girl said in 34% of likely voters:
I do not think there will be a civil war.
TG, for most of my life I believed as you do. From Nov 9, 2016 forward, I have concluded, however reluctantly, that anything can happen, anything at all. And none of it would be a surprise.
What little capacity for shock and surprise that was left in me after 9/11 got used up in November of 2016. Increasingly I am feeling like the Little Prince, sitting on my remote planet and observing events.
Anything can happen now.
Butterfly effect? Hand of God? Kismet?
Control is an illusion. Man does not have control, except in the individual and then only those things he actually does have control over. Entropy is always at work...Man always engages in the Sisyphian effort of building stable societies and empires, but forgets that the hill and the boulder reside in an imperfect Hades. An imperfect being tries to create the perfect world, and we wonder why it always comes apart...Silly us...
We keep getting better at it, though.
Debatable.
We are technologically more capable. We cure disease in previously unthinkable ways, but ancient man probably couldn't even wrap his mind around the concept of thermonuclear war.
So the question becomes...Is modern society actually better, or just different?
Better. Categorically. We know about individual sovereignty, how to live meaningfully, and that stable societies must rely on the rule of law to maintain our values. Ancient man had barely a clue.
Modern life isn't perfect but all things considered I'll take BLM and my individual pursuits over dying from a tooth infection or a club to the face any day.
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wrote on 21 Jun 2020, 16:49 last edited by
Just keep giving blm everything they want, everything.
And before the election blm will be more hated than the 9/11 hijackers.
