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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    Sour grapes.

    The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

    Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

    No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

    Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

    Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

    People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

    This is true. And the other way too.

    No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.

    Agree, but also millions who will vote for President Trump because they do not like the alternate.

    @Mik (I apologize if I am remember wrong) I think said something like, "I will hold my nose and vote for President Trump". And I am sure he is not alone.

    At the end of the day, it does not matter your reason behind your vote, what only matters is how you voted.

    MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
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    #26

    @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    Sour grapes.

    The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

    Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

    No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

    Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

    Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

    People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

    This is true. And the other way too.

    No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.

    Agree, but also millions who will vote for President Trump because they do not like the alternate.

    @Mik (I apologize if I am remember wrong) I think said something like, "I will hold my nose and vote for President Trump". And I am sure he is not alone.

    At the end of the day, it does not matter your reason behind your vote, what only matters is how you voted.

    I will vote, but truthfully I have not decided how yet. Sadly the libertarians aren't running anybody good this year. Trump's lack of leadership lately is concerning to me. He seems to be floundering.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      #27

      https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/06/after-tulsa-parscale-and-kushner-on-trumps-hit-list

      “After Tulsa Catastrophe, Parscale—And Kushner—Is at the Top of Trump’s Hit List”

      It is always someone else’s fault.

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        Catseye3
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        #28

        "The sources said that Parscale, reading the tea leaves, is planning to step down. “He knows he can’t survive,” one source told me."

        Ha! Did I call it or what??? I knew we should've had a TNCR office pool!

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          jon-nyc
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          #29

          Wait wait wait - this event was a success. I read that here.

          And the reporting about Trump being livid came from ABC - it can only be fake.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #30

            I think it was a success. Eight million viewers ain't bad. I think Trump on offense is better than Trump on defense, and Trump was having fun flaying The Senile Patient.

            No, the crowd wasn't as large as hoped. Virus, you know.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              I think it was a success. Eight million viewers ain't bad. I think Trump on offense is better than Trump on defense, and Trump was having fun flaying The Senile Patient.

              No, the crowd wasn't as large as hoped. Virus, you know.

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              Catseye3
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              #31

              @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

              No, the crowd wasn't as large as hoped. Virus, you know.

              What makes more sense is that people stayed away for more than one reason:

              • Virus
              • Fear of protesters
              • Unrealistic estimate of needed capacity; there was never going to be 20,000
              • Clearing the White House protesters and the Bible stunt turned people off
              • Enthusiasm for Trump diminishing from 2016
              • Why bother if Biden is going to win

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #32

                Well, at least the lackluster turnout is a good answer to all those idiots who say that Trump is like Hitler.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  Well, at least the lackluster turnout is a good answer to all those idiots who say that Trump is like Hitler.

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                  Loki
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                  #33

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                  Well, at least the lackluster turnout is a good answer to all those idiots who say that Trump is like Hitler.

                  Except the 8 million who watched it on TV. Seems like one way or another the turnout was as predicted.

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                  • Catseye3C Offline
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                    Catseye3
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                    #34

                    Come on, that's pretty feeble. It takes no effort to turn on the TV and watch it, even while doing other things. You can't call that showing support. And you can't call it a 'turnout'.

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                      Come on, that's pretty feeble. It takes no effort to turn on the TV and watch it, even while doing other things. You can't call that showing support. And you can't call it a 'turnout'.

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                      Loki
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                      #35

                      @Catseye3 said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                      Come on, that's pretty feeble. It takes no effort to turn on the TV and watch it, even while doing other things. You can't call that showing support. And you can't call it a 'turnout'.

                      Hard to say now that people are tiring of Trump with those numbers on the board. Ask an expert. Also turnout was likely tamped by Covid concerns, so they turned on the TV instead.

                      Oh and if you think turning on the TV is a nothing burger think about sports.

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                        #36

                        It takes a lot less effort -- and a lot less enthusiasm -- to turn on the TV than to pack up the Igloo and schlep to the venue. People whose enthusiasm ranges from lukewarm to zero will watch him on TV; you can't count it as support for Trump.

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        • L Loki

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                          Well, at least the lackluster turnout is a good answer to all those idiots who say that Trump is like Hitler.

                          Except the 8 million who watched it on TV. Seems like one way or another the turnout was as predicted.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          #37

                          @Loki said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                          Well, at least the lackluster turnout is a good answer to all those idiots who say that Trump is like Hitler.

                          Except the 8 million who watched it on TV. Seems like one way or another the turnout was as predicted.

                          OK, sorry, he is like Hitler after all.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            Come on, that's pretty feeble. It takes no effort to turn on the TV and watch it, even while doing other things. You can't call that showing support. And you can't call it a 'turnout'.

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                            Loki
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                            #38

                            @Catseye3 said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                            Come on, that's pretty feeble. It takes no effort to turn on the TV and watch it, even while doing other things. You can't call that showing support. And you can't call it a 'turnout'.

                            It was Fox’s most watched event ever. If that doesn’t move you I give up.

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                              #39

                              If you chaps had any decent sport, you wouldn't have to watch this shit.

                              1.9 billion people watch Formula 1.

                              Hell, on a good day 10 million watch Doctor Who in Britain alone.

                              I was only joking

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                              • L Loki

                                @Catseye3 said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                                Come on, that's pretty feeble. It takes no effort to turn on the TV and watch it, even while doing other things. You can't call that showing support. And you can't call it a 'turnout'.

                                It was Fox’s most watched event ever. If that doesn’t move you I give up.

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                                #40

                                @Loki said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                                It was Fox’s most watched event ever. If that doesn’t move you I give up.

                                In the first place, Fox is Trump's wingman; maybe it was the most watched and maybe it wasn't.

                                Secondly, what does 'watching' mean? Was it 'watching' versus 'had the TV turned on'?

                                I think poll demographers would have to do interviews of the TV watchers to get any kind of an idea of how watching him on TV will directly translate to the voting booth.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  It was already predetermined before the Oklahoma rally started that it would be spun as being a disaster, low turnout, etc. You see, the Left has tried to destroy the man from the day he first announced he was running for the office. They hate him with a passion, for xe eral reason.. they had put a black man in the White House, and they didnt do it because he was a good leader, they did it because he was black. They wanted to follow that "first" up with another one - a woman. They didnt care that she was corrupt to the core, she was a woman. Trump denied them this back to back "first", a goal they wanted to achieve more than they cared about the country. Next, they heavily invested in a mocking of Trump, saying he couldn't possibly win. The proof that the Left doesn't give a damn about the country is evident every direction you look today, not the least of which is by looking at the senile empty suit they are supporting today. They only care about power. If they have to destroy the nation to get it, so be it. Because they just flat do not care.

                                  BUT that's politics. What really bothers me is watching normally intelligent people fall for it, participate in it, apparently incapable of seeing what's really happening and who is causing it, and like a herd of sheep buying into it. That's sad.

                                  Trump had a rally. Thousands of people showed up in spite of a deadly virus and the possibility of violence and physical harm from Leftists currently engaged in destroying the nation. Joe Biden hand picks 20 people to sit through a Biden "rally". They struggled to stay awake. Yet the media doesn't report that, they spend all their time telling you Trumps rally was a disaster.

                                  And some of you don't have sense enough to figure it out, and become sheep.

                                  Jesus. Stupid is just oozing.

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                                    It's all very reminiscent of the late 60's and early 70's. Protests... riots, looting, destruction.

                                    The Silent Majority is watching and listening this time too. While the left is trying so hard to erase history, it would do them well to understand they are repeating it.

                                    And I believe they will be met with the same result as back then. A landslide victory up and down the ticket for repub's. Not because they are so great, but because the Silent Majority is coming (again) to understand that the left is that bad.

                                    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                      George K
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                                      Seen on Twitter: "Republicans would order fake tickets to hear Biden speak in public but local ordinances limit the capacity of Baskin-Robbins."

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        Seen on Twitter: "Republicans would order fake tickets to hear Biden speak in public but local ordinances limit the capacity of Baskin-Robbins."

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                                        @George-K said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                                        Seen on Twitter: "Republicans would order fake tickets to hear Biden speak in public but local ordinances limit the capacity of Baskin-Robbins."

                                        Fake news! Biden speaks only from his basement.

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                                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                          @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                                          No, the crowd wasn't as large as hoped. Virus, you know.

                                          What makes more sense is that people stayed away for more than one reason:

                                          • Virus
                                          • Fear of protesters
                                          • Unrealistic estimate of needed capacity; there was never going to be 20,000
                                          • Clearing the White House protesters and the Bible stunt turned people off
                                          • Enthusiasm for Trump diminishing from 2016
                                          • Why bother if Biden is going to win
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                                          Jolly
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                                          #45

                                          @Catseye3 said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                                          @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                                          No, the crowd wasn't as large as hoped. Virus, you know.

                                          What makes more sense is that people stayed away for more than one reason:

                                          • Virus
                                          • Fear of protesters
                                          • Unrealistic estimate of needed capacity; there was never going to be 20,000
                                          • Clearing the White House protesters and the Bible stunt turned people off
                                          • Enthusiasm for Trump diminishing from 2016
                                          • Why bother if Biden is going to win
                                          1. Probably
                                          2. Possibly
                                          3. Not necessarily. The ticket requests were very high.
                                          4. This is Tulsa. People in Oklahoma don't give a damn about protesters in Washington. If anything, the Bible helped.
                                          5. Maybe. But look at how many people The Dementia Patient had at his rally. 20. Handpicked.
                                          6. Still early. Very early.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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