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24 hours from Tulsa....

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    Sour grapes.

    The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

    Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

    No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

    Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

    Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #20

    @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

    Sour grapes.

    The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

    Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

    No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

    Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

    Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

    People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

    taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
    • JollyJ Jolly

      Sour grapes.

      The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

      Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by
      #21

      @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

      Sour grapes.

      The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

      Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

      That depends on how much they are paid.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

        @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

        Sour grapes.

        The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

        Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

        No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

        Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

        Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

        People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

        taiwan_girlT Offline
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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on last edited by
        #22

        @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

        @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

        @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

        Sour grapes.

        The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

        Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

        No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

        Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

        Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

        People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

        This is true. And the other way too.

        JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

          @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

          @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

          Sour grapes.

          The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

          Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

          No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

          Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

          Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

          People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

          This is true. And the other way too.

          JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #23

          @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

          @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

          @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

          @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

          Sour grapes.

          The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

          Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

          No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

          Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

          Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

          People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

          This is true. And the other way too.

          No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

          taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
          • JollyJ Jolly

            @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

            @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

            @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

            @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

            Sour grapes.

            The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

            Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

            No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

            Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

            Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

            People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

            This is true. And the other way too.

            No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on last edited by
            #24

            @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

            @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

            @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

            @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

            @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

            Sour grapes.

            The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

            Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

            No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

            Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

            Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

            People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

            This is true. And the other way too.

            No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.

            Agree, but also millions who will vote for President Trump because they do not like the alternate.

            @Mik (I apologize if I am remember wrong) I think said something like, "I will hold my nose and vote for President Trump". And I am sure he is not alone.

            At the end of the day, it does not matter your reason behind your vote, what only matters is how you voted.

            MikM 1 Reply Last reply
            • MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
              wrote on last edited by Mik
              #25

              Hell, I went to pick up my Peach Truck order this morning, looked at the situation and split. Chaos, no real distancing, few masks, hundreds or thousands of people. This is in one of the zip codes that are on the way up, so I suspect many infections will result.

              Bummed out about the peaches (they really are fantastic) but I don't like them THAT much. I sent them and email and they promptly refunded my money, which was actually quite nice of them. I expected they might not.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                Sour grapes.

                The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

                Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

                No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

                Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

                Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

                People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

                This is true. And the other way too.

                No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.

                Agree, but also millions who will vote for President Trump because they do not like the alternate.

                @Mik (I apologize if I am remember wrong) I think said something like, "I will hold my nose and vote for President Trump". And I am sure he is not alone.

                At the end of the day, it does not matter your reason behind your vote, what only matters is how you voted.

                MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #26

                @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                @taiwan_girl said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                @jon-nyc said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                Sour grapes.

                The rally was entertaining and a success. I'm sure Trump would have liked a packed house, but times are what they are.

                Can anyone even imagine The Dementia Patient pumping up a crowd like that?

                No, but he’s leading a broad-based political movement, not a cult.

                Trump drew much larger crowds than Hillary and still got fewer votes. Bernie drew bigger crowds than Biden (and Hillary) and still came up short on the voting.

                Crowds just aren’t a great metric. Or at least not a reliable one.

                People may vote against Trump, but they ain't voting for Biden.

                This is true. And the other way too.

                No, there are millions who will vote for Trump. There is a definite enthusiasm gap.

                Agree, but also millions who will vote for President Trump because they do not like the alternate.

                @Mik (I apologize if I am remember wrong) I think said something like, "I will hold my nose and vote for President Trump". And I am sure he is not alone.

                At the end of the day, it does not matter your reason behind your vote, what only matters is how you voted.

                I will vote, but truthfully I have not decided how yet. Sadly the libertarians aren't running anybody good this year. Trump's lack of leadership lately is concerning to me. He seems to be floundering.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  #27

                  https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/06/after-tulsa-parscale-and-kushner-on-trumps-hit-list

                  “After Tulsa Catastrophe, Parscale—And Kushner—Is at the Top of Trump’s Hit List”

                  It is always someone else’s fault.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #28

                    "The sources said that Parscale, reading the tea leaves, is planning to step down. “He knows he can’t survive,” one source told me."

                    Ha! Did I call it or what??? I knew we should've had a TNCR office pool!

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #29

                      Wait wait wait - this event was a success. I read that here.

                      And the reporting about Trump being livid came from ABC - it can only be fake.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #30

                        I think it was a success. Eight million viewers ain't bad. I think Trump on offense is better than Trump on defense, and Trump was having fun flaying The Senile Patient.

                        No, the crowd wasn't as large as hoped. Virus, you know.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          I think it was a success. Eight million viewers ain't bad. I think Trump on offense is better than Trump on defense, and Trump was having fun flaying The Senile Patient.

                          No, the crowd wasn't as large as hoped. Virus, you know.

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                          Catseye3
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                          #31

                          @Jolly said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                          No, the crowd wasn't as large as hoped. Virus, you know.

                          What makes more sense is that people stayed away for more than one reason:

                          • Virus
                          • Fear of protesters
                          • Unrealistic estimate of needed capacity; there was never going to be 20,000
                          • Clearing the White House protesters and the Bible stunt turned people off
                          • Enthusiasm for Trump diminishing from 2016
                          • Why bother if Biden is going to win

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #32

                            Well, at least the lackluster turnout is a good answer to all those idiots who say that Trump is like Hitler.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              Well, at least the lackluster turnout is a good answer to all those idiots who say that Trump is like Hitler.

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                              Loki
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #33

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                              Well, at least the lackluster turnout is a good answer to all those idiots who say that Trump is like Hitler.

                              Except the 8 million who watched it on TV. Seems like one way or another the turnout was as predicted.

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                                Catseye3
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                                #34

                                Come on, that's pretty feeble. It takes no effort to turn on the TV and watch it, even while doing other things. You can't call that showing support. And you can't call it a 'turnout'.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                  Come on, that's pretty feeble. It takes no effort to turn on the TV and watch it, even while doing other things. You can't call that showing support. And you can't call it a 'turnout'.

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                                  Loki
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #35

                                  @Catseye3 said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                                  Come on, that's pretty feeble. It takes no effort to turn on the TV and watch it, even while doing other things. You can't call that showing support. And you can't call it a 'turnout'.

                                  Hard to say now that people are tiring of Trump with those numbers on the board. Ask an expert. Also turnout was likely tamped by Covid concerns, so they turned on the TV instead.

                                  Oh and if you think turning on the TV is a nothing burger think about sports.

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                                    It takes a lot less effort -- and a lot less enthusiasm -- to turn on the TV than to pack up the Igloo and schlep to the venue. People whose enthusiasm ranges from lukewarm to zero will watch him on TV; you can't count it as support for Trump.

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    • L Loki

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                                      Well, at least the lackluster turnout is a good answer to all those idiots who say that Trump is like Hitler.

                                      Except the 8 million who watched it on TV. Seems like one way or another the turnout was as predicted.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      #37

                                      @Loki said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                                      Well, at least the lackluster turnout is a good answer to all those idiots who say that Trump is like Hitler.

                                      Except the 8 million who watched it on TV. Seems like one way or another the turnout was as predicted.

                                      OK, sorry, he is like Hitler after all.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                        Come on, that's pretty feeble. It takes no effort to turn on the TV and watch it, even while doing other things. You can't call that showing support. And you can't call it a 'turnout'.

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                                        Loki
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #38

                                        @Catseye3 said in 24 hours from Tulsa....:

                                        Come on, that's pretty feeble. It takes no effort to turn on the TV and watch it, even while doing other things. You can't call that showing support. And you can't call it a 'turnout'.

                                        It was Fox’s most watched event ever. If that doesn’t move you I give up.

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                                          #39

                                          If you chaps had any decent sport, you wouldn't have to watch this shit.

                                          1.9 billion people watch Formula 1.

                                          Hell, on a good day 10 million watch Doctor Who in Britain alone.

                                          I was only joking

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