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Cooking with Stainless

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #1

    I invested in some stainless cookware a while ago. It got good reviews on Consumer Reports and other sites.

    I'm still struggling with using it to fry and sear food.

    I know one should take care to pre-heat on low to medium-low heat and then add your oil or butter. For butter, let it come almost to where it starts to brown and then add food.

    I've been moderately successful with omelets, and, for the most part they don't stick. If they do, well, scrambled eggs are okay, right?

    But, I have a question about scorching. Yesterday, I made cajun chicken alfredo. The recipe called for a seasoned chicken breast with you put in the skillet to cook through.

    Although the breast really didn't stick (I used olive oil), I got some serious scorching on the wall of the skillet where there was no oil, and were the chicken didn't touch the side of the skillet.

    Needless to say, it's a pain to clean (hello, Barkeeper's Friend), but I'm kind of missing the non-stick.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • Catseye3C Offline
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      Catseye3
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Sorry? I'm not getting what it is that was scorching.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        Sorry? I'm not getting what it is that was scorching.

        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #3

        @Catseye3 said in Cooking with Stainless:

        Sorry? I'm not getting what it is that was scorching.

        The inside of the skillet.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • Catseye3C Offline
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          Catseye3
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          https://madeincookware.com/blogs/the-dreaded-rainbow-stain-and-how-to-fix-it
          "The rainbow stain on Stainless Steel [what I gather you're calling scorching] is what's known as "heat tint." Stainless Steel contains a small amount of chromium in it to help resist corrosion and rusting. When chromium and air mix, a protective layer is formed on your pan. More simply put, when Stainless Steel is heated to high temperatures, the oxidized layer can thicken, which causes a rainbow tint."

          I recommend you read the rest of this article. Plus, below is an article on technique on cooking with stainless:

          https://www.chatelaine.com/recipes/chatelainekitchen/six-essential-tips-for-cooking-with-but-not-sticking-to-stainless-steel/

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • Catseye3C Catseye3

            https://madeincookware.com/blogs/the-dreaded-rainbow-stain-and-how-to-fix-it
            "The rainbow stain on Stainless Steel [what I gather you're calling scorching] is what's known as "heat tint." Stainless Steel contains a small amount of chromium in it to help resist corrosion and rusting. When chromium and air mix, a protective layer is formed on your pan. More simply put, when Stainless Steel is heated to high temperatures, the oxidized layer can thicken, which causes a rainbow tint."

            I recommend you read the rest of this article. Plus, below is an article on technique on cooking with stainless:

            https://www.chatelaine.com/recipes/chatelainekitchen/six-essential-tips-for-cooking-with-but-not-sticking-to-stainless-steel/

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @Catseye3 yeah, I've read all those tips before.

            This was not a "rainbow" discoloration. It was a large, brown area on the inside wall of the skillet - where no oil or food came in contact.

            I should have taken a photo or three.

            Next time.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              Here.

              It was not nearly as bad as this - mostly an area about 4 inches wide on the inside wall, but you get the idea.

              eec869576bf9d0215984edd5c10d14489cda7d8e-3503039472 copy.jpeg

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #7

                Too hot?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Too hot?

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @Jolly i wondered about that.

                  I pre-heated on medium-low. I mean...how low can you go?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    I dunno. I do know my stainless gets a lot hotter than my cast iron with the same amount of heat.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #10

                      Yeah, it’s been a learning experience for me, too. I find that heating a little vinegar water to a boil, then dumping and scrubbing with baking soda works really well.

                      My problem are the rivets where the handle attaches. The scorches there won’t come off with a sponge and baking soda. Can I safely use a brush or chain mail?

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        Yeah, it’s been a learning experience for me, too. I find that heating a little vinegar water to a boil, then dumping and scrubbing with baking soda works really well.

                        My problem are the rivets where the handle attaches. The scorches there won’t come off with a sponge and baking soda. Can I safely use a brush or chain mail?

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Cooking with Stainless:

                        Can I safely use a brush or chain mail?

                        The problem with chain mail on cast iron is that it removes the seasoning, or so I've read. Presumably, there's no seasoning involved with stainless, so, why not?

                        Like I said, I've used Barkeeper's Friend, along with elbow grease, with good results.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by George K
                          #12

                          Here's what I'm talking about.

                          IMG_3050.jpeg

                          I'm getting very frustrated with the stainless. The advantages, the purported advantages, do not outweigh the hassle of being exquisitely careful of preventing sticking and cleanup.

                          I'm glad that this set was chosen via a gift card, so it basically cost me nothing.

                          I wouldn't consider using it for anything that a cast iron or non-stick wouldn't be good enough for.

                          Screen Shot 2022-10-21 at 7.57.41 PM.png

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            Food touched the side of the skillet, even if it’s condensed oil/water. Air doesn’t leave burned residue.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • jon-nycJ Offline
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              Barkeepers friend is the answer.

                              I keep a nonstick pan or two around but generally prefer stainless. Yes there are messes occasionally

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • MikM Mik

                                Food touched the side of the skillet, even if it’s condensed oil/water. Air doesn’t leave burned residue.

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                @Mik said in Cooking with Stainless:

                                Food touched the side of the skillet,

                                Nope. Never did.

                                This was a chicken breast. Pre-heat skillet at low, medium low heat. When hot (check with water dance) add oil. Swirl oil around skillet to coat all of inside, and add (thin) chicken breast. The food NEVER touched the side of the skillet.

                                Here's the bottom and outer surfaces of the skillet.

                                Screen Shot 2022-10-21 at 8.16.29 PM copy.jpg

                                Screen Shot 2022-10-21 at 8.16.46 PM copy.jpg

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @Mik said in Cooking with Stainless:

                                  Food touched the side of the skillet,

                                  Nope. Never did.

                                  This was a chicken breast. Pre-heat skillet at low, medium low heat. When hot (check with water dance) add oil. Swirl oil around skillet to coat all of inside, and add (thin) chicken breast. The food NEVER touched the side of the skillet.

                                  Here's the bottom and outer surfaces of the skillet.

                                  Screen Shot 2022-10-21 at 8.16.29 PM copy.jpg

                                  Screen Shot 2022-10-21 at 8.16.46 PM copy.jpg

                                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @George-K Yeah, I’ve been underwhelmed with my stainless set as well, but I refuse to get non-stick.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @George-K Yeah, I’ve been underwhelmed with my stainless set as well, but I refuse to get non-stick.

                                    George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Cooking with Stainless:

                                    I refuse to get non-stick.

                                    Because of the PTFE, I assume?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Cooking with Stainless:

                                      I refuse to get non-stick.

                                      Because of the PTFE, I assume?

                                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      @George-K said in Cooking with Stainless:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Cooking with Stainless:

                                      I refuse to get non-stick.

                                      Because of the PTFE, I assume?

                                      Yeah… I also won’t use Aluminum, and spend 3 times more than I need to for dry cleaning to use silicone….

                                      The two things that truly scare me personally are Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s. I know the evidence is hardly conclusive about the links, but you know what? I don’t need to take those risks, so I won’t.

                                      The Brad

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