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Which country produces the best beer?

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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
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    USA! USA!

    Finally.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      jon-nyc
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      #3

      Indeed.

      One big change that occurred in my lifetime was a vast improvement in the coffee and beer landscape in the US.

      Really all beverage and culinary categories. But those two stand out.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        I agree about the beer. The microbrewery scene in the US is amazing.

        I'm not so sure about the coffee, though. Drip coffee still often tastes like dishwater. Starbucks, the big American coffee success story, produces something with the consistency of polyurethane foam for $7.

        The one American coffee invention I like is the invention of the Ladybug Bikini Espresso Drive Thru.

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          jon-nyc
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          #5

          You can get decent espresso all over the country now, that wasn't true 30 years ago.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            #6

            And while it’s true Starbucks is no Lavazza it’s still remarkably better than what you’d find in a restaurant circa 1970.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Maybe where you live.

              Coffee has been fairly decent down here, for as long as I can remember.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                You can get decent espresso all over the country now, that wasn't true 30 years ago.

                MikM Away
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                Mik
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                @jon-nyc said in Which country produces the best beer?:

                You can get decent espresso all over the country now, that wasn't true 30 years ago.

                Not to mention a decent cup of joe at most convenience stores. For a buck.

                The one thing I do not understand is McDonalds coffee. It has been uniformly awful for 50 years and people still buy it.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Consistency?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Consistency?

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                    George K
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                    @Jolly said in Which country produces the best beer?:

                    Consistency?

                    Yup. That's what Mickey D's is all about. It might not be the best, it might even be bad, but you know EXACTLY how it'll be. Every time.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • KlausK Klaus

                      I agree about the beer. The microbrewery scene in the US is amazing.

                      I'm not so sure about the coffee, though. Drip coffee still often tastes like dishwater. Starbucks, the big American coffee success story, produces something with the consistency of polyurethane foam for $7.

                      The one American coffee invention I like is the invention of the Ladybug Bikini Espresso Drive Thru.

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                      @Klaus said in Which country produces the best beer?:

                      I agree about the beer. The microbrewery scene in the US is amazing.

                      When I was in the US almost a decade ago, I remember being very impressed by some microbrewery beers. Good stuff! And I’m a Belgian fond and proud of our local beers 😁

                      The coffee… not so much… What came out of the coffee machine at my former employer’s offices was something hard to describe… the taste of coffee was in there somewhere, but it was mostly hot water. And my American colleagues drank it throughout the day as if they were addicted to that stuff. The 2 double espresso’s I went to buy there each morning at a local coffee shop, was decent though.

                      The Starbucks shops here in Belgium have good coffee too, but I’ll never EVER order an Americano again!!

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Indeed.

                        One big change that occurred in my lifetime was a vast improvement in the coffee and beer landscape in the US.

                        Really all beverage and culinary categories. But those two stand out.

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                        Catseye3
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                        @jon-nyc said in Which country produces the best beer?:

                        Really all beverage and culinary categories.

                        (Nodding.) Before the advent on the scene of James Beard and Julia Child, USA was nowhere. The French were top dog.

                        Then everything changed. <G>

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        • NunataxN Nunatax

                          @Klaus said in Which country produces the best beer?:

                          I agree about the beer. The microbrewery scene in the US is amazing.

                          When I was in the US almost a decade ago, I remember being very impressed by some microbrewery beers. Good stuff! And I’m a Belgian fond and proud of our local beers 😁

                          The coffee… not so much… What came out of the coffee machine at my former employer’s offices was something hard to describe… the taste of coffee was in there somewhere, but it was mostly hot water. And my American colleagues drank it throughout the day as if they were addicted to that stuff. The 2 double espresso’s I went to buy there each morning at a local coffee shop, was decent though.

                          The Starbucks shops here in Belgium have good coffee too, but I’ll never EVER order an Americano again!!

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                          jon-nyc
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                          @Nunatax For sure horrible coffee is still around. But it used to be that’s all that was around.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            (Nodding.) Before the advent on the scene of James Beard and Julia Child, USA was nowhere. The French were top dog.

                            Then everything changed. <G>

                            I think a lot of the folks in New Orleans and South Louisiana may not agree with you.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              (Nodding.) Before the advent on the scene of James Beard and Julia Child, USA was nowhere. The French were top dog.

                              Then everything changed. <G>

                              I think a lot of the folks in New Orleans and South Louisiana may not agree with you.

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                              @Jolly
                              I'm talking about global influence.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                I have no idea where we rank globally.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  I have no idea where we rank globally.

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                                  @Jolly
                                  No . . . I meant that before James Beard and Julia Child, the USA had no standing globally. Those two put the USA on the map.

                                  Of course there were important regional influences before their advent, but those were more among Americans than throughout the world.

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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