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Fentanyl: Separating Facts From Fiction

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    It continues...

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #30

        Again...

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          Again...

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          @George-K said in Fentanyl: Separating Facts From Fiction:

          Again...

          Do you think what he was experiencing was psychosomatic?

          I guess if you've been told again and again that Fentanyl can do this, then there's a chance it's going to happen without a physical reason.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            @George-K said in Fentanyl: Separating Facts From Fiction:

            Again...

            Do you think what he was experiencing was psychosomatic?

            I guess if you've been told again and again that Fentanyl can do this, then there's a chance it's going to happen without a physical reason.

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            @Doctor-Phibes said in Fentanyl: Separating Facts From Fiction:

            Do you think what he was experiencing was psychosomatic?

            I guess if you've been told again and again that Fentanyl can do this, then there's a chance it's going to happen without a physical reason.

            Totally possible that it's psychosomatic. Heat stroke? Other "panic" attack?

            Remember, if you're breathing and standing, and talking, you're not overdosing on a narcotic.

            It's unfortunate that this kind of misinformation makes its way through the law enforcement community.

            Maybe YouTube and Google will censor it?

            As I said, of the thousands of ampules of fentanyl I've opened, I'm sure I spilled some on my hands. It's a wonder I'm alive. See my trophy, above.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              By the way, the trade name for fentanyl, when it first came out was "Sublimaze."

              What a great name - "Sublime amazement." Almost as good as Versed.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Fentanyl: Separating Facts From Fiction:

                Do you think what he was experiencing was psychosomatic?

                I guess if you've been told again and again that Fentanyl can do this, then there's a chance it's going to happen without a physical reason.

                Totally possible that it's psychosomatic. Heat stroke? Other "panic" attack?

                Remember, if you're breathing and standing, and talking, you're not overdosing on a narcotic.

                It's unfortunate that this kind of misinformation makes its way through the law enforcement community.

                Maybe YouTube and Google will censor it?

                As I said, of the thousands of ampules of fentanyl I've opened, I'm sure I spilled some on my hands. It's a wonder I'm alive. See my trophy, above.

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                @George-K said in Fentanyl: Separating Facts From Fiction:

                It's unfortunate that this kind of misinformation makes its way through the law enforcement community.

                I think I mentioned before that when our next door neighbour at our last house died they showed up with hazmat suits. It didn't seem to register that his poor grandparents who found him weren't experiencing any symptoms.

                I was only joking

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                  Jesus...

                  image.jpeg

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    That's WMD. Bad idea.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      That's WMD. Bad idea.

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                      @Mik said in Fentanyl: Separating Facts From Fiction:

                      That's WMD. Bad idea.

                      That's also not a weapon. Unless they have a mechanism for getting it INTO someone, it's harmless.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Aerosolized?

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Aerosolized?

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                          @Mik said in Fentanyl: Separating Facts From Fiction:

                          Aerosolized?

                          In an enclosed environment, perhaps. There are rumors that that's what the Russians did in that theater. Carfentanil is a more likely substance. Remifentanil is another possibility, but its duration of action is very short - minutes.

                          Carfentanil is a nasty drug. Exceptionally potent.

                          Its primary use is veterinary, and the vets are taught to always, ALWAYS, have naloxone drawn up and ready to go.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Good Lord.

                            I should have burned all my clothes.

                            image.jpeg

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              You would think an insurance company would be more rational.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                You would think an insurance company would be more rational.

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                                @Mik said in Fentanyl: Separating Facts From Fiction:

                                You would think an insurance company would be more rational.

                                From Wikipedia: "An actuary is a professional with advanced mathematical skills who deals with the measurement and management of risk and uncertainty."

                                That's actually hilarious.

                                I was only joking

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                                  @Mik said in Fentanyl: Separating Facts From Fiction:

                                  You would think an insurance company would be more rational.

                                  From Wikipedia: "An actuary is a professional with advanced mathematical skills who deals with the measurement and management of risk and uncertainty."

                                  That's actually hilarious.

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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Fentanyl: Separating Facts From Fiction:

                                  "An actuary is a professional with advanced mathematical skills who deals with the measurement and management of risk and uncertainty."

                                  An actuary is a person who deals with numbers but doesn't have the personality of an accountant.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Fentanyl: Separating Facts From Fiction:

                                    "An actuary is a professional with advanced mathematical skills who deals with the measurement and management of risk and uncertainty."

                                    An actuary is a person who deals with numbers but doesn't have the personality of an accountant.

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                                    @George-K said in Fentanyl: Separating Facts From Fiction:

                                    An actuary is a person who deals with numbers but doesn't have the personality of an accountant.

                                    One of the few professions that when replaced with AI will become more personable.

                                    I was only joking

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