Atlanta police force should all quit
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Pop culture is in lockstep that police are evil. I agree that a reasonable response for a cop would be to quit. But that would leave them with few economic options. So they'll just end up acting worse out of spite or self preservation. Because they're human. This is what the lilly white pop cultural thought leaders have wrought. Well done, douche bags. The most offensive of these, are the ones who actually think they're thinking carefully.
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Ridiculous. He faces the death penalty.
Yep. They should all quit. Let the have the jungle they want.
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We spend so much effort navel gazing about how American cops are worse than anywhere else. Maybe it would be more interesting to compare pop culture reactions to an event like this where an armed cop was assaulted, and then shot the person who assaulted them. Any other countries in the world where the average citizen would react this way to that news?
But I already enter into loony land by describing the situation without including the most important detail - the relative skin colors involved. Our own culture would of course shrug, were that detail different.
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@Mik said in Atlanta police force should all quit:
The man should not have struggled with officers, stealing one of their weapons and trying to use it on them. These guys showed him nothing but respect for 25 minutes, trying very hard to make sure nothing escalated.
That's sure one way of looking at it. We don't know for sure Brooks was "shown nothing but respect". Somebody said that at one point both officers' shoulder cams fell off, and there was a bit in the middle of the scrum where we're not sure what happened.
I keep wondering, Brooks goes from cooperative and going along nicely, and then suddenly grabs the taser and bolts. Why? Maybe his drunk brain rebelled against jail when he was planning to spend the day with his daughter, maybe anything.
I keep wondering how one drunk guy got away from two trained, sober policemen. With one of their weapons, yet.
I think we don't know enough to buy your scenario.
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We have been told that white people are bad. We have been told that white people should apologize for their "white priveledge". Whites have been told they are racists purely because of the color of their skin. Your character no longer matters - all that matters is the color of your skin. Blacks on college campuses have created "white free zones", or to put it another way.. "no whites allowed".
Now we are being shown that you can no longer require a black man to obey the law, or submit to authority. If you are a cop and you attempt to arrest a black man, you may end up in prison for life. The only avenue left is to just let black people do whatever they want to do, and don't try to stop them.
We have been told by black people that it is impossible for black people to be racist because they are black. Obama was supposed to be the Messiah that gave black people their dignity back...
Most of my life, black people and white people have gotten along just fine, practically no racism to be found. The last time I ever experienced a black man being mistreated by white people because he was black was in high school. Now, over the last few years, I have watched as a growing number of blacks have decided we need to go back to judging people by their skin color, this time the race that sees itself as superior is the black race.
We are being forced to have to choose based on race. Fine and dandy. If they insist that I become a racist, I will.
BUT... I still believe that the majority of black people are just as disgusted by all this as white people are.
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@Larry said in Atlanta police force should all quit:
BUT... I still believe that the majority of black people are just as disgusted by all this as white people are.
Wherever we're heading, it's certainly not towards the notion that skin color doesn't matter. I imagine that gets more exhausting for black folk than it ever gets for white folk. But the white folk are the ones making sure to reinforce the notion that it matters.
It's funny to keep in mind the pot of gold our society offers those who are quantitatively equal: a middle class job for the rest of your boring, average life.
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Larry:
". . . The last time I ever experienced a black man being mistreated by white people because he was black was in high school."Sure, decades ago. But I know for a fact, at least in our district, it has gotten worse. The more anti-white the rhetoric, the more issues arise, that don't hit the evening news (though some do). I've seen many expulsions of white students being expelled for words used, and that's just unfair IMO. We all were stupid in high school, some more stupid than others, some just didn't get caught. And the more you tell a teenager "no" the more some will push the boundaries of that "no" until surprise! - you're expelled.
It will be interesting. Lots of huge mobs on TV. White guilt. White racism. But behind the scenes, there may be not thousands, but millions of people, who will come to say "enough."
Maybe, maybe not. Maybe the millions just go about their lives, masks on their faces, not wanting to engage in evaluating where they stand on the protests, hoping it all goes away along with the pandemic. -
@Rainman said in Atlanta police force should all quit:
Larry:
". . . The last time I ever experienced a black man being mistreated by white people because he was black was in high school."Sure, decades ago. But I know for a fact, at least in our district, it has gotten worse.
And the progressives smiled...
The more anti-white the rhetoric, the more issues arise
And the progressives smiled...
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@Horace said in Atlanta police force should all quit:
@Rainman said in Atlanta police force should all quit:
Larry:
". . . The last time I ever experienced a black man being mistreated by white people because he was black was in high school."Sure, decades ago. But I know for a fact, at least in our district, it has gotten worse.
And the progressives smiled...
The more anti-white the rhetoric, the more issues arise
And the progressives smiled...
Horace, do you really think so, or are you being snarky?
Yes, this is a form of justification and rationalization for progressives, but then this would even further diminish my faith that most progressives want what's best for society.Bummer, maybe it's just all power-seeking, any damn way to justify the ends.
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Yes, I think so. The existence of racism vindicates the meaning of their lives, which is to fight against racism or whatever other cartoonish evil they can imagine. I think it's pretty easy to get to the point where you get a dopamine rush whenever racism is seen and acknowledged. It's the demand side of "the demand for racism exceeds the supply".
I guess there are those who are more calculated about the racism thing - russian trolls among them - who really do ply it with anarchic intentions. And there are others that see it as a road to getting people to vote for the virtuous side which also happens to be the socialist side. But mostly the left is filled with people who find meaning in their fight against evil and for that meaning they need the existence of evil. The more the better.
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When I was young, there was always the chance that the officer would drive you home if not far, or tell you to walk home, or tell you to call a friend to take you home. As a teenager and into my early 20's, I knew a few cops just because somehow, they seemed around more, and got to know the young people in the area. Pete Poulus, Officer Brooks. I still remember a couple of their names.
These days, with zero-tolerance, the cops can't ever be your friend, to be judge and jury on the spot, and show some humanity.
This guy did not deserve to die.
He should have been given a warning, and told that it's on file. The next time he is DUII he will be arrested. That (arrest) would be explained: probably no jail time, but a hefty fine and your insurance will go up, if you're allowed to drive at all. This assures that next time, he won't try to outrun the police, thinking he'd go to jail.
Yeah, there are holes in my argument you could drive a truck through. But there MUST be a better way this all could have been handled differently. He didn't deserve to die, although the way things are, the cop was very close to be justified in shooting him. Lives destroyed, huge costs, only great for lawyers.
Suxor.
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Wasn't it Rudy that forced NY cops to go back to walking a beat, as he brought crime down in the city? That's a good idea. The cops here in Portland are often depicted in their heavy armor. Although necessary, it still send a chilling image.
I must be in a snowflake or liberal mood today. Seriously, some days I see things different than most days. It's either empathy, or stupidity. Not sure which.
