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  • markM mark

    @jon-nyc said in Ok bike peeps:

    SRAM rival 22 v Shimano 105?

    Are they equivalent?

    They are "equivalent" in price. They typically categorize and compare them by price bracket.

    Apex - Tiagra
    Rival - 105
    Force - Ultegra
    Red - Dura-Ace

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    @jon-nyc since I built my bike, I was free to mix and match components from Red and Force. I have the Red shifters, Front Derailleur, and Crankset. Force Rear Derailleur and gearset. My brakes are from a completely different company as I found lighter, less expensive brakes than either Red or Force. They cost the same as Force if I remember correctly but they were significantly lighter in weight.

    Force would be my pre-built bike sweet spot.

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    • KlausK Klaus

      Ignore what Mark said 🙂

      SRAM vs Shimano is mostly a matter of taste.

      The difference between Carbon Fiber and Aluminum isn't very big. A lot of $ for a marginal difference.

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      Doctor Phibes
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      @Klaus said in Ok bike peeps:

      Ignore what Mark said 🙂

      SRAM vs Shimano is mostly a matter of taste.

      The difference between Carbon Fiber and Aluminum isn't very big. A lot of $ for a marginal difference.

      When I bought my bike, I'd budgeted $2K, and I'd read in a number of places that for that money it was a choice between a very good quality aluminium frame and a low to mid-range carbon frame, and the difference in weight wasn't really that big a deal. There are more cost-effective ways to trim weight from the overall package - the weight of the rider for example 🙂

      I opted for aluminium frame, and I've been happy with it. It came with carbon forks, which make for an easier ride.

      I was only joking

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        I think the bike dealers are right about pandemic issues. Nobody has anything with a Shimano 105 in stock at anywhere near 2500. Just higher end stuff

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          I think the bike dealers are right about pandemic issues. Nobody has anything with a Shimano 105 in stock at anywhere near 2500. Just higher end stuff

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          @jon-nyc said in Ok bike peeps:

          I think the bike dealers are right about pandemic issues. Nobody has anything with a Shimano 105 in stock at anywhere near 2500. Just higher end stuff

          Would you consider buying direct instead of from a dealer?

          Which frame size do you need? (it's easy to calculate from the distance of the floor to your balls , if you don't know it).

          This German manufacturer is quite good - one of my bikes is from them. They have an aluminium 105 bike with disc brakes for 1850 Euro. They ship to the US for 250 Euro, and they ship most sizes within two weeks.

          https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-pro-sl-disc-105-2696850?product_shape=matt+silvergrey&article_size=57cm

          If disc brakes are not that important to you (for instance, if you don't drive much in the rain), you could also consider the rim brake version, which also has 105 components but costs just 1400. That's a very decent bike for a small price.

          https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-pro-sl-105-2696848?product_shape=mandarin+red

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            #39

            I have a event on 9/24-9/25 in the cape

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              #40

              I’m not even that worried about money. I’ll pay 2500-3000. There’s just no fucking inventory

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                #41

                I see. Maybe renting a bike while you wait for your "real" bike" would be an option?

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  I have a event on 9/24-9/25 in the cape

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                  @jon-nyc said in Ok bike peeps:

                  I’m not even that worried about money. I’ll pay 2500-3000. There’s just no fucking inventory

                  Why not buy the Giant for 2800, then? It looks decent enough.

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                    #43

                    You’re right. That’s probably what I should do.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      You’re right. That’s probably what I should do.

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                      @jon-nyc Get the Giant CF with 105.

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                      • markM mark

                        @jon-nyc Get the Giant CF with 105.

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                        @mark

                        I will. First thing tomorrow.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @mark

                          I will. First thing tomorrow.

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                          @jon-nyc Cool. Get a professional fitting too. What pedals and shoes are you getting?

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                            Are there pedals that work with special shoes and also regular trainers?

                            I’ve only ever used flat pedals

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Are there pedals that work with special shoes and also regular trainers?

                              I’ve only ever used flat pedals

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                              @jon-nyc said in Ok bike peeps:

                              Are there pedals that work with special shoes and also regular trainers?

                              I’ve only ever used flat pedals

                              Yes, they're platforms on one side, "clipless" on the other. But they can be very fiddly. I find them not worth it.

                              SPDs are likely better. The cleats can be recessed, so they can act as regular shoes. That's what I have. Without seeing the bottoms you'd never know they weren't tennis shoes.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                Jesus you guys are turning me into one of those people.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Jesus you guys are turning me into one of those people.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Ok bike peeps:

                                  Jesus you guys are turning me into one of those people.

                                  Just don't buy no damn jerseys.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    @jon-nyc said in Ok bike peeps:

                                    Are there pedals that work with special shoes and also regular trainers?

                                    I’ve only ever used flat pedals

                                    Yes, they're platforms on one side, "clipless" on the other. But they can be very fiddly. I find them not worth it.

                                    SPDs are likely better. The cleats can be recessed, so they can act as regular shoes. That's what I have. Without seeing the bottoms you'd never know they weren't tennis shoes.

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                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Ok bike peeps:

                                    But they can be very fiddly. I find them not worth it.

                                    Yes, agreed. Hybrid pedals suck. But there is no problem just using flat pedals. They work just as well as SPD or SPD-SL and the like, and you won't look like an idiot falling with your bike at 0.5 mph (we've all been there).

                                    Aqua is right about using MTB pedals like SPD. They have the big advantage that you can walk reasonably well with them, whereas you look like a duck when walking with road bike pedals.

                                    I for one would just stick to flat pedals to get started.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      I once had to walk over 5 miles in those bloody duck-shoes after getting a flat and my pump failing.

                                      What a nightmare.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        I once had to walk over 5 miles in those bloody duck-shoes after getting a flat and my pump failing.

                                        What a nightmare.

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes

                                        Yeah, see? You’re exactly what I don’t want to become.

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        • KlausK Klaus

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Ok bike peeps:

                                          But they can be very fiddly. I find them not worth it.

                                          Yes, agreed. Hybrid pedals suck. But there is no problem just using flat pedals. They work just as well as SPD or SPD-SL and the like, and you won't look like an idiot falling with your bike at 0.5 mph (we've all been there).

                                          Aqua is right about using MTB pedals like SPD. They have the big advantage that you can walk reasonably well with them, whereas you look like a duck when walking with road bike pedals.

                                          I for one would just stick to flat pedals to get started.

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                                          @Klaus said in Ok bike peeps:

                                          I for one would just stick to flat pedals to get started.

                                          Same, unless you have serious problems with your quads. Sure, clipless shoes help, but they aren't game-changers, especially if you're not doing centuries (yet).

                                          Please love yourself.

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