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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

    Let's just just be thankful he didn't try to use the same tactics that he normally recommends for pushing regime change for governments he doesn't like.

    John Bolton, the arch reactionary, takes on Donald Trump, the arch populist demagogue.

    Makes for great TV.

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    Doctor Phibes
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    #100

    @Renauda said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

    Let's just just be thankful he didn't try to use the same tactics that he normally recommends for pushing regime change for governments he doesn't like.

    John Bolton, the arch reactionary, takes on Donald Trump, the arch populist demagogue.

    Makes for great TV.

    Watching the battle isn't nearly as entertaining as watching the crowd.

    I was only joking

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @Renauda said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

      Let's just just be thankful he didn't try to use the same tactics that he normally recommends for pushing regime change for governments he doesn't like.

      John Bolton, the arch reactionary, takes on Donald Trump, the arch populist demagogue.

      Makes for great TV.

      Watching the battle isn't nearly as entertaining as watching the crowd.

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      Catseye3
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      #101

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

      Watching the battle isn't nearly as entertaining as watching the crowd.

      Yeah, the battle kind of doesn't matter much. Two losers, who cares? It's like being in an arena and watching two 3-legged dogs fighting. You just want them to stop so you can go get a Dixie Cup. Not to mention that most of the crowd appears to have already made their minds up, anyway.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • X xenon

        @Larry said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

        1. ... and said building internment camps was the 'right thing to do'
          You honestly believe that Trump said that and the Chinese didn't use it to their advantage???????

        BWAHAAAAAHAHAHAAAAA

        Screw it. The other 8 things are just as silly, but if you guys can't figure this out on your own I'm not spending an hour trying to explain this to you.

        That's not completely out of character for Trump. His response to the Tienanmen square massacre (from a 90's interview):

        Trump said he'd been "very unimpressed" with the Soviet Union.

        "Their system is a disaster," Trump said. "What you will see there soon is a revolution; the signs are all there with the demonstrations and picketing. Russia is out of control and the leadership knows it. That's my problem with [former Soviet President Mikhail] Gorbachev. Not a firm enough hand."

        The future US president was then asked if he meant "firm hand as in China."

        "When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength," Trump replied. "That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak...as being spit on by the rest of the world."

        https://www.businessinsider.com/trumpn-tiananmen-square-massacre-china-showed-power-of-strength-2019-6

        I'm not saying one proves the other. It's just - he's a fan of putting down dangerous ideas with force.

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        @xenon said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

        he's a fan of putting down dangerous ideas with force.

        1 idea, once, maybe

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          xenon
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          That’s one more than most people who truly believe in free speech.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Online
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            Doctor Phibes
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            #104

            We're torn between the notion that the book is a real and present danger to national security, giving away state secrets, and that it's a pack of lies. I'm not totally convinced that it can be both.

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              We're torn between the notion that the book is a real and present danger to national security, giving away state secrets, and that it's a pack of lies. I'm not totally convinced that it can be both.

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              Larry
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              #105

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

              We're torn between the notion that the book is a real and present danger to national security, giving away state secrets, and that it's a pack of lies. I'm not totally convinced that it can be both.

              Sure it can. Tell a national secret, and then lie about Trumps response to it.

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                George K
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                #106

                Motion for injunction denied:

                But, here's the interesting part: The judge agrees that Bolton has caused damage to harm.

                And this:

                Ball's in DOJ's court now - criminal referral? Trump is vindictive enough to push it.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  The book appears to be a dud on every level, including a nothing burger on Ukraine. Remember when Bolton would have been the final nail in Trump’s impeachment coffin?

                  Well you get to see the end of that movie now. Keep in mind none of the highlighted previews talk about Ukraine. Huh, how did the media skate by that one. Oh well.

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/17/books/review-room-where-it-happened-john-bolton-memoir.html

                  I will be impressed with anyone who can survive 500+ pages of this. Seriously.

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                  • George KG George K

                    Motion for injunction denied:

                    But, here's the interesting part: The judge agrees that Bolton has caused damage to harm.

                    And this:

                    Ball's in DOJ's court now - criminal referral? Trump is vindictive enough to push it.

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                    @George-K

                    I'd push for indictment ...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #109

                      Maybe he can share a cell with the still unprosecuted Hillary.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        Maybe he can share a cell with the still unprosecuted Hillary.

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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                        Maybe he can share a cell with the still unprosecuted Hillary.

                        Actually...Didn't her trial start?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          #111

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                          • LarryL Larry

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                            George K
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                            @Larry said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                              Maybe he can share a cell with the still unprosecuted Hillary.

                              Actually...Didn't her trial start?

                              Doctor PhibesD Online
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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              @Jolly said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

                              Maybe he can share a cell with the still unprosecuted Hillary.

                              Actually...Didn't her trial start?

                              not really, no

                              I was only joking

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                                George K
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                                Justice Dept. Opens Criminal Inquiry Into John Bolton’s Book

                                The Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into whether President Trump’s former national security adviser John R. Bolton unlawfully disclosed classified information when he published a memoir this summer, a case that the department opened after it failed to stop the book’s publication this summer, according to three people familiar with the matter.

                                The department has convened a grand jury, which issued a subpoena for communications records from Simon & Schuster, the publisher of Mr. Bolton’s memoir, “The Room Where It Happened.” In the book, Mr. Bolton delivered a highly unflattering account of his 17 months working in the Trump administration.

                                The investigation is a significant escalation in the fraught publication of the book. The Trump administration had sought to stop its publication, accusing Mr. Bolton in a lawsuit of moving forward with publication without receiving final notice that a prepublication review to scrub out classified information was complete. The director of national intelligence referred the matter to the Justice Department last month, two of the people said. John Demers, the head of the department’s national security division, then opened the criminal investigation, according to a person briefed on the case..

                                Mr. Bolton has denied that he published classified information. Representatives for the Justice Department, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the National Security Council declined to comment.

                                Mr. Bolton’s account of his time working for Mr. Trump and his efforts to get the book published set off a furor. He confirmed elements of the Ukraine scheme that prompted impeachment, wrote that the president was willing to intervene in criminal investigations to curry favor with foreign dictators and said he sought China’s help in winning re-election.

                                Mr. Trump has made clear that he wants his former aide prosecuted. He said on Twitter that Mr. Bolton “broke the law” and “should be in jail, money seized, for disseminating, for profit, highly Classified information.” He has also called Mr. Bolton “a dope,” “incompetent” and the book “a compilation of lies and made up stories, all intended to make me look bad.”

                                Lawyers for the National Security Council and the Justice Department expressed reservations about opening a criminal case, in part because Mr. Trump’s public statements made it seem like an overtly political act, according to two officials briefed on the discussions. Others noted that a federal judge this summer said that Mr. Bolton may have broken the law, and that the case had merit.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Larry
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                                  It's about time.

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                                    Rainman
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                                    #116

                                    I don't know that much about Bolton, but when he was a Fox News contributor, he always came across to me as an expert wanting to go bomb someone anywhere, and trying to convince everyone that his view of stick/carrot was what should be done. In general.
                                    Maybe he's just a pussycat, a fuzzy mustached Santa. Or not. I think not.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #117

                                      This could turn out very nicely, Trump exposed and Bolton behind bars.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        Jolly
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                                        Neither will happen.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #119

                                          His book is out.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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