Captain Obvious strikes again
-
wrote on 31 Aug 2022, 18:11 last edited by Mik
Someone paid good money for this study.
-
wrote on 31 Aug 2022, 18:25 last edited by
I know a little bit about fentanyl and I have no idea what this means:
"...fentanyl begins to impair breathing about 4 minutes before there is any change in alertness and at 1,700 times lower concentrations than other sedating drugs."
And this is not only bullshit but false:
"No amount of fentanyl is safe outside of a clinical setting, the researchers said"
Apparently these researchers have never heard of a Duragesic patch.
The researchers are from
Man's Greatest HospitalMassachusetts General, so I can only assume that the author of this article didn't understand what he was talking about. -
wrote on 31 Aug 2022, 18:25 last edited by
Yeah, the abstract says something different:
"We also report that respiratory depression, quantified by decline in an index of instantaneous minute ventilation, occurs at ≈ 1700-fold lower concentrations than those that produce sedation as measured by reaction time. "
-
wrote on 31 Aug 2022, 18:28 last edited by
Yep. Mass General is a great place. I just thought the whole article was ridiculous, incorrect and did not support the headline. if there is anything of interest it's the EEG use.
-
wrote on 31 Aug 2022, 18:36 last edited by
And, the article states, "Opioids or other drugs taken during substance abuse may contain fentanyl in unknown yet significant proportions; the respiratory effects we describe here make clear that no amount of fentanyl would be safe in this context. "
That's quite different from saying "No amount of fentanyl is safe outside of a clinical setting."
-
Yep. Mass General is a great place. I just thought the whole article was ridiculous, incorrect and did not support the headline. if there is anything of interest it's the EEG use.
wrote on 31 Aug 2022, 18:38 last edited by@Mik said in Captain Obvious strikes again:
Mass General is a great place.
The "Man's Greatest Hospital" quip was a nod to "The House of God," by Samuel Shem.
-
wrote on 31 Aug 2022, 18:47 last edited by Mik
It was pretty much the only hospital I ever worked for where the doctors were involved with implementing the systems in ways that contributed to project success. Almost always they are an impediment, because while I was always willing to try to understand their viewpoint, they usually assumed they knew more about It than I did and were not interested in learning more. .