Amazon's "Lord of the RIngs
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@George-K said in Amazon's "Lord of the RIngs:
Seems like a lot of the negativity comes from the Tolkien fanbois, and not too much from the folks who just evaluate it as a story/tv series.
I'm not a JRRT fanboi (read half the first book and watched the trilogy - once), so I might give it a chance.I'm a big LOTR fanboi, but I don't get all psycho about it or anything, and I didn't see anything wrong with the Amazon show. It's a bit slow-moving, half way through the second episode things finally get going a bit.
I did think that making the Elves all speak with English accents, Dwarves with a Scottish brogue and Halflings with Irish was a bit naff.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Amazon's "Lord of the RIngs:
naff
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None of your complaints hold a candle to Kevin Costner trying an English accent - for part of the movie.
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I don't need this stuff in a show like this.
When 'wokeness' comes to Middle-earth: Why some say diverse casting ruins the new 'Lord of the Rings' series
Brandon Morse has read J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," the "Lord of the Rings" series and watched extended editions of Peter Jackson's ring trilogy so often that "I can almost quote them all line for line."
But Morse is dreading a new addition to the Middle-earth canon that he says "perverts and corrupts" Tolkien's mythical medieval universe because TV showrunners have committed this storytelling crime:
They are trying to "woke-ify" Amazon's new series, "The Lord of the Rings: "The Rings of Power."
Morse is deputy managing editor of RedState, a conservative news site. He says "The Rings of Power" producers have cast non-White actors in a story based on European culture and who look wildly different from how Tolkien originally described them. He says it's an attempt to embed "social justice politics" into Tolkien's world.
"If you focus on introducing modern political sentiments, such as the leftist obsession with identity issues that only go skin deep, then you're no longer focusing on building a good story," says Morse, who wrote an impassioned essay about his misgivings. "You're effectively making propaganda, or art meant to fit a message, not a message to fit the art."
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I don't need this stuff in a show like this.
When 'wokeness' comes to Middle-earth: Why some say diverse casting ruins the new 'Lord of the Rings' series
Brandon Morse has read J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," the "Lord of the Rings" series and watched extended editions of Peter Jackson's ring trilogy so often that "I can almost quote them all line for line."
But Morse is dreading a new addition to the Middle-earth canon that he says "perverts and corrupts" Tolkien's mythical medieval universe because TV showrunners have committed this storytelling crime:
They are trying to "woke-ify" Amazon's new series, "The Lord of the Rings: "The Rings of Power."
Morse is deputy managing editor of RedState, a conservative news site. He says "The Rings of Power" producers have cast non-White actors in a story based on European culture and who look wildly different from how Tolkien originally described them. He says it's an attempt to embed "social justice politics" into Tolkien's world.
"If you focus on introducing modern political sentiments, such as the leftist obsession with identity issues that only go skin deep, then you're no longer focusing on building a good story," says Morse, who wrote an impassioned essay about his misgivings. "You're effectively making propaganda, or art meant to fit a message, not a message to fit the art."
@Copper said in Amazon's "Lord of the RIngs:
I don't need this stuff in a show like this.
When 'wokeness' comes to Middle-earth: Why some say diverse casting ruins the new 'Lord of the Rings' series
Brandon Morse has read J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," the "Lord of the Rings" series and watched extended editions of Peter Jackson's ring trilogy so often that "I can almost quote them all line for line."
But Morse is dreading a new addition to the Middle-earth canon that he says "perverts and corrupts" Tolkien's mythical medieval universe because TV showrunners have committed this storytelling crime:
They are trying to "woke-ify" Amazon's new series, "The Lord of the Rings: "The Rings of Power."
Morse is deputy managing editor of RedState, a conservative news site. He says "The Rings of Power" producers have cast non-White actors in a story based on European culture and who look wildly different from how Tolkien originally described them. He says it's an attempt to embed "social justice politics" into Tolkien's world.
"If you focus on introducing modern political sentiments, such as the leftist obsession with identity issues that only go skin deep, then you're no longer focusing on building a good story," says Morse, who wrote an impassioned essay about his misgivings. "You're effectively making propaganda, or art meant to fit a message, not a message to fit the art."
Basically, he's complaining about them using black actors in a fucking made up world.
What a stupid twat.
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Halfway through the first episode. Not horrible. MUCH better than the Wheel of Time abomination.
If you just accept the fact that it’s mediocre fanfic it’s popcorn worthy.
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Halfway through the first episode. Not horrible. MUCH better than the Wheel of Time abomination.
If you just accept the fact that it’s mediocre fanfic it’s popcorn worthy.
@LuFins-Dad said in Amazon's "Lord of the RIngs:
Halfway through the first episode. Not horrible. MUCH better than the Wheel of Time abomination.
That's true, I will give it that.
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Watched both episodes. I used to be all about TLOTR lore and swore than if anyone made a movie (a real movie) that it had better do this and it had better have that! etc. I have read the books several times.
Now I just don't care. I am enjoying the story and the acting is pretty good IMO.
Watching it on the 4k 82" with 5.1 surround. The room is dark and it's like being in a small theater. I hear that the ATMOS mix is pretty impressive. I need to upgrade! lol
Some pretty good production and effects here. But, in a couple of scenes I could tell I was looking at a green screen.
Watching it with my daughters. They are also enjoying it. I have heard no negatives from either of them. My other daughter might be a different story as she is the Keeper of Lore, in the family.
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Even the pirates don't like it....
With the release of HBO’s “House of the Dragon” and Amazon’s “The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power,” two major fantasy series premiered last month.
The former was an instant success on pirate sites where, in true Game of Thrones spirit, it was leaked before the official premiere.
While both series are hard to compare, the media has pitted them against each other to see which one performs best. Does “The Rings of Power” dwarf “House of the Dragon” or vice versa?
In terms of user ratings, the Game of Thrones prequel wins by a landslide but official viewer statistics are harder to come by. According to Variety, the Dragons now average 29 million viewers per episode. Amazon hasn’t released much data on its billion-dollar production but previously said that the Rings premiere drew a 25 million audience.
Dragon Crushes Rings on Pirate Sites
To add our two cents to this battle, we decided to take a look at how both series are doing on pirate sites. With help from IKnow, we looked at a large sample of millions of global BitTorrent transfers over the past two weeks (7-21 September) which resulted in a clear winner.
“House of the Dragon” takes the crown with more than 1.4 million estimated downloads on peak days. During the two weeks that we collected sample data, the show amassed over 9 million estimated downloads.
The graph above shows that The “Rings of Power” doesn’t even come close with a maximum of roughly 650k estimated downloads. It typically beats the GOT prequel by just a small margin, shortly after a new episode is released. Over the two weeks, this resulted in 5 million downloads.
To give an indication of how popular “House of the Dragon” is, on the day of release the show is good for more than 10% of all movie and TV show downloads. That’s a percentage we haven’t seen for a while.
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Even the pirates don't like it....
With the release of HBO’s “House of the Dragon” and Amazon’s “The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power,” two major fantasy series premiered last month.
The former was an instant success on pirate sites where, in true Game of Thrones spirit, it was leaked before the official premiere.
While both series are hard to compare, the media has pitted them against each other to see which one performs best. Does “The Rings of Power” dwarf “House of the Dragon” or vice versa?
In terms of user ratings, the Game of Thrones prequel wins by a landslide but official viewer statistics are harder to come by. According to Variety, the Dragons now average 29 million viewers per episode. Amazon hasn’t released much data on its billion-dollar production but previously said that the Rings premiere drew a 25 million audience.
Dragon Crushes Rings on Pirate Sites
To add our two cents to this battle, we decided to take a look at how both series are doing on pirate sites. With help from IKnow, we looked at a large sample of millions of global BitTorrent transfers over the past two weeks (7-21 September) which resulted in a clear winner.
“House of the Dragon” takes the crown with more than 1.4 million estimated downloads on peak days. During the two weeks that we collected sample data, the show amassed over 9 million estimated downloads.
The graph above shows that The “Rings of Power” doesn’t even come close with a maximum of roughly 650k estimated downloads. It typically beats the GOT prequel by just a small margin, shortly after a new episode is released. Over the two weeks, this resulted in 5 million downloads.
To give an indication of how popular “House of the Dragon” is, on the day of release the show is good for more than 10% of all movie and TV show downloads. That’s a percentage we haven’t seen for a while.
@George-K GoT has boobies. Never a fare comparison, especially on pirate sites.
