Student loan cancellation
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Must be strange to think that opinions that differ from your own require some sort of pathopsychological explanation. That was even true of your pre-tribal self.
wrote on 2 Oct 2022, 21:12 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:
Must be strange to think that opinions that differ from your own require some sort of pathopsychological explanation. That was even true of your pre-tribal self.
Jon, you're full of shit. You see everything through a pseudo-intellectual tribal theme. I happen to be a bit more nuanced and believe people actually think and act for themselves.
Ever notice Jodi's posting patterns? She's a far from my politics as East is from West. But I don't think the woman has a hateful bone in her body.
PD is a hateful asshole, who does not value the people he politically disagrees with, though through the years many of those people have coughed up enough tuition to make up part of his paycheck.
And you, bubba, with your high-minded, snot-tracks-on-the-ceiling, better than the great unwashed throngs of MAGATs, will one day be just worm food, trying to explain to an unmerciful God (because Mercy time is over) just why you were so damn smart you spit in his general direction. Of course, maybe I'm wrong about that God stuff and we'll just be worm food together, but at least I'll have the satisfaction of going to my grave not painting great swaths of the American public as beyond the pale. I may think that as a group they are ignorant of logic or they do stupid things, but I don't stoop to the level you do at times.
I asked you the other day if you would accept charitable contributions from MAGATs and you noted that of course you would. You hypocritical SOB. Anybody I hated that much, I certainly wouldn't take money from them...That bespeaks too much of monetary whoredom.
You can do better. Try.
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wrote on 2 Oct 2022, 21:19 last edited by
FWIW, I disassociate myself from the above post.
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wrote on 2 Oct 2022, 21:21 last edited by jon-nyc 10 Feb 2022, 21:23
That was a response to Horace. Your earlier comments about PD were more straightforward, you didn't attempt psychoanalysis of any sort. Besides, you had no pre-tribal self, Jolly.
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That was a response to Horace. Your earlier comments about PD were more straightforward, you didn't attempt psychoanalysis of any sort. Besides, you had no pre-tribal self, Jolly.
wrote on 2 Oct 2022, 21:24 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:
That was a response to Horace. Your earlier comments about PD were more straightforward, you didn't attempt psychoanalysis of any sort. Besides, you had no pre-tribal self, Jolly.
You mean I wrote a great rant for nothing?
Some days...
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That was a response to Horace. Your earlier comments about PD were more straightforward, you didn't attempt psychoanalysis of any sort. Besides, you had no pre-tribal self, Jolly.
wrote on 2 Oct 2022, 21:39 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:
That was a response to Horace. Your earlier comments about PD were more straightforward, you didn't attempt psychoanalysis of any sort. Besides, you had no pre-tribal self, Jolly.
It is objective fact that he displays his political hatreds on his sleeve, proudly. His psychology is a topic of discussion by virtue of that.
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wrote on 17 Oct 2022, 21:05 last edited by
Student loan forgiveness application now live.
Online application available at https://studentaid.gov/debt-relief/application
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wrote on 17 Oct 2022, 21:10 last edited by
Surprised that there's been no temporary injunction.
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wrote on 17 Oct 2022, 21:39 last edited by LuFins Dad
@George-K said in Student loan cancellation:
Surprised that there's been no temporary injunction.
Yeah, well, Republicans could try to stop it oooorrrr they could use it as an election issue for midterms. Motherfuckers…
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wrote on 17 Oct 2022, 21:48 last edited by
@George-K said in Student loan cancellation:
Surprised that there's been no temporary injunction.
Nobody has standing to take it to court. That one IN plaintiff’s case that we discussed here was made moot by a tweak in the exec order to make it optional. Another tweak we discussed here excluded a chunk of loans over which some banks would have a good standing claim.
The administration knows this wouldn’t withstand a court challenge, so they’re preventing them.
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@George-K said in Student loan cancellation:
Surprised that there's been no temporary injunction.
Nobody has standing to take it to court. That one IN plaintiff’s case that we discussed here was made moot by a tweak in the exec order to make it optional. Another tweak we discussed here excluded a chunk of loans over which some banks would have a good standing claim.
The administration knows this wouldn’t withstand a court challenge, so they’re preventing them.
wrote on 17 Oct 2022, 21:49 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:
Nobody has standing to take it to court.
After I posted that, this was my first thought.
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@jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:
Nobody has standing to take it to court.
After I posted that, this was my first thought.
wrote on 17 Oct 2022, 22:17 last edited by@George-K said in Student loan cancellation:
@jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:
Nobody has standing to take it to court.
After I posted that, this was my first thought.
I still dispute that. It’s recognized that Congress has standing, but the leadership is not interested in fighting it. I would think minority members of Congress would still have standing. But they aren’t trying.
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wrote on 17 Oct 2022, 22:27 last edited by
True, I almost wrote ‘Congress has standing but they don’t want to challenge it” but was tired of typing
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True, I almost wrote ‘Congress has standing but they don’t want to challenge it” but was tired of typing
wrote on 17 Oct 2022, 23:55 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:
True, I almost wrote ‘Congress has standing but they don’t want to challenge it” but was tired of typing
If they block it then they can’t run against it.
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wrote on 18 Oct 2022, 00:12 last edited by
I wonder if the administration had assumed it would be blocked by the republicans all along.
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wrote on 18 Oct 2022, 00:14 last edited by
I doubt it. It would have been easy enough to let it get challenged. But they tweaked it to get it through.
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wrote on 18 Oct 2022, 18:51 last edited by
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wrote on 18 Oct 2022, 19:18 last edited by LuFins Dad
Aside from tuition, there are problems that need fixing in the student loan business. This will solve none of them.
Having gone through the process with Lucas, some issues that I am seeing…
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The web portals that these kids use to manage their accounts do not give them any useful information. They don’t give you the interest accrued per month, nor an amortization schedule. When I fill out a loan agreement at work, I am required to show customers the total cost of the loan if they go term. Not so on these online portals…
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they actively encourage you to wait to start paying on your loan until you graduate, accruing 4 years of interest. If you do choose to make payments, the initial monthly offerings they make are lower than the interest accrued.
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Sallie Mae spams the ever living fuck out of you. Every single day my son gets emails telling him that he’s “entitled” to even more funds in his loan for books, computers, and any other needs he may have. And yes, they use the word entitled, and yes, every frigging day. I get them too, but they don’t use the word entitled in mine.[link text](
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wrote on 19 Oct 2022, 20:12 last edited by
Supreme Court asked to block Biden student debt relief program
The Supreme Court on Wednesday was asked to block the Biden administration’s student loan debt relief program, which is set to take effect this weekend.
The request by the Brown County Taxpayers Association in Wisconsin was directed to Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who is responsible for handling emergency application requests from the 7th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals.
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the group’s request.
A federal judge in Wisconsin earlier this month dismissed the taxpayers association’s lawsuit challenging the program, ruling that the group did not have legal standing to block the plan.
The group then filed an appeal of that ruling to the 7th Circuit appeals court.
Wednesday’s request to Barrett asks that the plan by President Joe Biden to cancel up to $20,000 in student debt for millions of borrowers be suspended pending the outcome of the pending appeal.
The U.S. Department of Education opened its application for student loan forgiveness in a beta test on Friday.
More than 8 million people submitted requests for relief over that weekend.
The application officially launched on Monday. The Biden administration could start processing borrowers’ requests for student loan forgiveness as soon as this Sunday.
The legal challenges that have been brought against the president’s plan continue to mount.
Six Republican-led states — Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska and South Carolina — are trying to block Biden’s plan, arguing that the president doesn’t have the power to issue nationwide debt relief without Congress. They’re also claiming that the policy would harm private companies that service some federal student loans by reducing their business.
The main obstacle for those hoping to foil the president’s action is finding a plaintiff who can prove they’ve been harmed by the policy. “Such injury is needed to establish what courts call ‘standing,’” said Laurence Tribe, a Harvard law professor.
Tribe said he isn’t convinced that any of the current lawsuits filed have successfully done that.
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wrote on 19 Oct 2022, 21:04 last edited by
At what point does this insanity begin to chip away at our cultural religion about education being good, full stop?
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Supreme Court asked to block Biden student debt relief program
The Supreme Court on Wednesday was asked to block the Biden administration’s student loan debt relief program, which is set to take effect this weekend.
The request by the Brown County Taxpayers Association in Wisconsin was directed to Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who is responsible for handling emergency application requests from the 7th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals.
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the group’s request.
A federal judge in Wisconsin earlier this month dismissed the taxpayers association’s lawsuit challenging the program, ruling that the group did not have legal standing to block the plan.
The group then filed an appeal of that ruling to the 7th Circuit appeals court.
Wednesday’s request to Barrett asks that the plan by President Joe Biden to cancel up to $20,000 in student debt for millions of borrowers be suspended pending the outcome of the pending appeal.
The U.S. Department of Education opened its application for student loan forgiveness in a beta test on Friday.
More than 8 million people submitted requests for relief over that weekend.
The application officially launched on Monday. The Biden administration could start processing borrowers’ requests for student loan forgiveness as soon as this Sunday.
The legal challenges that have been brought against the president’s plan continue to mount.
Six Republican-led states — Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska and South Carolina — are trying to block Biden’s plan, arguing that the president doesn’t have the power to issue nationwide debt relief without Congress. They’re also claiming that the policy would harm private companies that service some federal student loans by reducing their business.
The main obstacle for those hoping to foil the president’s action is finding a plaintiff who can prove they’ve been harmed by the policy. “Such injury is needed to establish what courts call ‘standing,’” said Laurence Tribe, a Harvard law professor.
Tribe said he isn’t convinced that any of the current lawsuits filed have successfully done that.
wrote on 19 Oct 2022, 22:42 last edited by@George-K said in Student loan cancellation:
Supreme Court asked to block Biden student debt relief program
The Supreme Court on Wednesday was asked to block the Biden administration’s student loan debt relief program, which is set to take effect this weekend.
The request by the Brown County Taxpayers Association in Wisconsin was directed to Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who is responsible for handling emergency application requests from the 7th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals.
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the group’s request.
A federal judge in Wisconsin earlier this month dismissed the taxpayers association’s lawsuit challenging the program, ruling that the group did not have legal standing to block the plan.
The group then filed an appeal of that ruling to the 7th Circuit appeals court.
Wednesday’s request to Barrett asks that the plan by President Joe Biden to cancel up to $20,000 in student debt for millions of borrowers be suspended pending the outcome of the pending appeal.
The U.S. Department of Education opened its application for student loan forgiveness in a beta test on Friday.
More than 8 million people submitted requests for relief over that weekend.
The application officially launched on Monday. The Biden administration could start processing borrowers’ requests for student loan forgiveness as soon as this Sunday.
The legal challenges that have been brought against the president’s plan continue to mount.
Six Republican-led states — Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska and South Carolina — are trying to block Biden’s plan, arguing that the president doesn’t have the power to issue nationwide debt relief without Congress. They’re also claiming that the policy would harm private companies that service some federal student loans by reducing their business.
The main obstacle for those hoping to foil the president’s action is finding a plaintiff who can prove they’ve been harmed by the policy. “Such injury is needed to establish what courts call ‘standing,’” said Laurence Tribe, a Harvard law professor.
Tribe said he isn’t convinced that any of the current lawsuits filed have successfully done that.
That’s going to be a hard nope.
