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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

    @Horace Don’t know about consensus but PD chimed in next door when this first came out.

    Ah, the man who never met a conservative idea or a Republican he liked...

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    @Jolly said in Student loan cancellation:

    @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

    @Horace Don’t know about consensus but PD chimed in next door when this first came out.

    Ah, the man who never met a conservative idea or a Republican he liked...

    Self described middle grounders who will never again publicly support a Republican presidential candidate are pretty common around these piano forums. If one were cynical, one might describe such people as social opportunists who will, in all meaningful tests of cultural affiliation, side with the mainstream mob in power.

    If the Republicans became the choice of pop culture, where careers or social standing in general could be advanced by publicly making noises to affiliate with them, these people would reliably make those noises.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Dunno.

      I've seen enough of PD's comments to know he hates conservatives.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Dunno.

        I've seen enough of PD's comments to know he hates conservatives.

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        @Jolly said in Student loan cancellation:

        Dunno.

        I've seen enough of PD's comments to know he hates conservatives.

        The hatred is a feature of the personality type. The target of the hatred is an accident of whatever culture the person lives in. It could just as easily been the left. But yes at some point the targets of the hatred become crystallized. There is no world in which certain personalities do not end up hating, though.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Maybe they don't really hate, maybe they just want to be hated.

          They were probably never cool in school.

          It is kind of cool to be the hated bad guy.

          And you can be a victim at the same time.

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            #81

            Must be strange to think that opinions that differ from your own require some sort of pathopsychological explanation. That was even true of your pre-tribal self.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Must be strange to think that opinions that differ from your own require some sort of pathopsychological explanation. That was even true of your pre-tribal self.

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              @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

              Must be strange to think that opinions that differ from your own require some sort of pathopsychological explanation. That was even true of your pre-tribal self.

              Jon, you're full of shit. You see everything through a pseudo-intellectual tribal theme. I happen to be a bit more nuanced and believe people actually think and act for themselves.

              Ever notice Jodi's posting patterns? She's a far from my politics as East is from West. But I don't think the woman has a hateful bone in her body.

              PD is a hateful asshole, who does not value the people he politically disagrees with, though through the years many of those people have coughed up enough tuition to make up part of his paycheck.

              And you, bubba, with your high-minded, snot-tracks-on-the-ceiling, better than the great unwashed throngs of MAGATs, will one day be just worm food, trying to explain to an unmerciful God (because Mercy time is over) just why you were so damn smart you spit in his general direction. Of course, maybe I'm wrong about that God stuff and we'll just be worm food together, but at least I'll have the satisfaction of going to my grave not painting great swaths of the American public as beyond the pale. I may think that as a group they are ignorant of logic or they do stupid things, but I don't stoop to the level you do at times.

              I asked you the other day if you would accept charitable contributions from MAGATs and you noted that of course you would. You hypocritical SOB. Anybody I hated that much, I certainly wouldn't take money from them...That bespeaks too much of monetary whoredom.

              You can do better. Try.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                FWIW, I disassociate myself from the above post.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  #84

                  That was a response to Horace. Your earlier comments about PD were more straightforward, you didn't attempt psychoanalysis of any sort. Besides, you had no pre-tribal self, Jolly.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    That was a response to Horace. Your earlier comments about PD were more straightforward, you didn't attempt psychoanalysis of any sort. Besides, you had no pre-tribal self, Jolly.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

                    That was a response to Horace. Your earlier comments about PD were more straightforward, you didn't attempt psychoanalysis of any sort. Besides, you had no pre-tribal self, Jolly.

                    You mean I wrote a great rant for nothing?

                    Some days...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      That was a response to Horace. Your earlier comments about PD were more straightforward, you didn't attempt psychoanalysis of any sort. Besides, you had no pre-tribal self, Jolly.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

                      That was a response to Horace. Your earlier comments about PD were more straightforward, you didn't attempt psychoanalysis of any sort. Besides, you had no pre-tribal self, Jolly.

                      It is objective fact that he displays his political hatreds on his sleeve, proudly. His psychology is a topic of discussion by virtue of that.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Student loan forgiveness application now live.

                        https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/10/17/student-loan-forgiveness-application-instructions-details/8170284001/

                        Online application available at https://studentaid.gov/debt-relief/application

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                          Surprised that there's been no temporary injunction.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            Surprised that there's been no temporary injunction.

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                            @George-K said in Student loan cancellation:

                            Surprised that there's been no temporary injunction.

                            Yeah, well, Republicans could try to stop it oooorrrr they could use it as an election issue for midterms. Motherfuckers…

                            The Brad

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                            • George KG George K

                              Surprised that there's been no temporary injunction.

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                              @George-K said in Student loan cancellation:

                              Surprised that there's been no temporary injunction.

                              Nobody has standing to take it to court. That one IN plaintiff’s case that we discussed here was made moot by a tweak in the exec order to make it optional. Another tweak we discussed here excluded a chunk of loans over which some banks would have a good standing claim.

                              The administration knows this wouldn’t withstand a court challenge, so they’re preventing them.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @George-K said in Student loan cancellation:

                                Surprised that there's been no temporary injunction.

                                Nobody has standing to take it to court. That one IN plaintiff’s case that we discussed here was made moot by a tweak in the exec order to make it optional. Another tweak we discussed here excluded a chunk of loans over which some banks would have a good standing claim.

                                The administration knows this wouldn’t withstand a court challenge, so they’re preventing them.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

                                Nobody has standing to take it to court.

                                After I posted that, this was my first thought.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

                                  Nobody has standing to take it to court.

                                  After I posted that, this was my first thought.

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                                  @George-K said in Student loan cancellation:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

                                  Nobody has standing to take it to court.

                                  After I posted that, this was my first thought.

                                  I still dispute that. It’s recognized that Congress has standing, but the leadership is not interested in fighting it. I would think minority members of Congress would still have standing. But they aren’t trying.

                                  The Brad

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                                    True, I almost wrote ‘Congress has standing but they don’t want to challenge it” but was tired of typing

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      True, I almost wrote ‘Congress has standing but they don’t want to challenge it” but was tired of typing

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

                                      True, I almost wrote ‘Congress has standing but they don’t want to challenge it” but was tired of typing

                                      If they block it then they can’t run against it.

                                      The Brad

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                                        I wonder if the administration had assumed it would be blocked by the republicans all along.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          I doubt it. It would have been easy enough to let it get challenged. But they tweaked it to get it through.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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