Robert Reich: "In Praise of Liz Cheney."

[Jolly]

If he loves her so much, donate to her next campaign and go on the stump with her.

[Horace]

It will be very interesting to see what her plans are after she loses. Being a principly anti-Trump demagogue is a heck of a long way from reputational suicide, and a heck of a long way from an objective sacrifice. She sacrificed her seat in WY, I'll grant that. But that could easily be a conscious exchange for something else.

[George K]

I commented on her in another thread. The way I see it, a representative's main job is to...represent the people who elected him/her.

Though I admire the abstract idea of doing what said representative sees as "the right thing," it can come at a political cost. If you're not doing what the people want you to do, either find people who will support you, or step aside.

[Horace]

It's just a matter of time before her ambitions become clear. I do not suspect she sees this as a hill she is dying on. I suspect she sees it as a springboard. She vigorously pursued the spotlight through all of this, and she is way more well known and well respected nationally than she ever was before the Trump stuff.

[Jolly]

IIRC, her personal worth went up 600% while she's been in office. She'll be okay.

[xenon]

I didn't think a representative is supposed to be an "average" of voter sentiment from her constituents.

I thought it was the job of a representative to lay out their principles and how they would govern, then go and apply that to the work of law-making.

The job of the representative is to be more informed than the voter and deliberate hard issues so the individual voter doesn't have to (or can't).

[Horace]

@Jolly said in Robert Reich: "In Praise of Liz Cheney.":

IIRC, her personal worth went up 600% while she's been in office. She'll be okay.

If all she wanted was an idle wealthy life, I bet her daddy would have gladly given that to her. I suspect she needs status and prominence.

[Jolly]

Money don't hurt.

[Mik]

Reich has struggled for relevance since the Obama administration left office. Hack.

[Doctor Phibes]

When it's Manchin, he's plowing his own furrow, a brave agent of common sense, blah blah blah.

When it's Cheney, she's a RINO and narcissist who dares to question the will of the people.

I don't really understand the difference, TBH. Maybe reading what people were saying about Winston Churchill in the 30's would be interesting.

[Mik]

Who says that?

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Robert Reich: "In Praise of Liz Cheney.":

When it's Manchin, he's plowing his own furrow, a brave agent of common sense, blah blah blah.

When it's Cheney, she's a RINO and narcissist who dares to question the will of the people.

I don't really understand the difference, TBH. Maybe reading what people were saying about Winston Churchill in the 30's would be interesting.

Manchin can be triangulated by policy decisions. Cheney's mavericky "principles" are single-issue.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Mik said in Robert Reich: "In Praise of Liz Cheney.":

Who says that?

Sorry, I was riffing.

The exact phrase was "a despicable human being", and "worse than any Democrat".

Even the really bad ones!

[Mik]

I'm fine with her, although I think she got snookered into the 1/6 group.

[Jolly]

She conceded less than 10 minutes after the polls closed.

She got whomped.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Mik said in Robert Reich: "In Praise of Liz Cheney.":

I'm fine with her, although I think she got snookered into the 1/6 group.

I'm fine with both Manchin and Cheney. It makes a change for politicians to do something they actually believe in.

The assumption that she's in it for the money and fame, whereas Donald Trump is doing what is right for the country seems a little, well, what's a polite word for it?

[Jolly]

You think Cheney is standing on principle?

Bwhahahahahahaha!

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in Robert Reich: "In Praise of Liz Cheney.":

You think Cheney is standing on principle?

Bwhahahahahahaha!

You apparently think that Trump is, which is way dumber.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Robert Reich: "In Praise of Liz Cheney.":

@Mik said in Robert Reich: "In Praise of Liz Cheney.":

I'm fine with her, although I think she got snookered into the 1/6 group.

I'm fine with both Manchin and Cheney. It makes a change for politicians to do something they actually believe in.

The assumption that she's in it for the money and fame, whereas Donald Trump is doing what is right for the country seems a little, well, what's a polite word for it?

I make no claims about Trump’s pure motives. But I could not be more skeptical of the notion that grandstanding about what a shitbag Trump is, is an act of heroism and courage and principle. That attitude in fact is all but prerequisite for a very broad set of social climbing objectives.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in Robert Reich: "In Praise of Liz Cheney.":

But I could not be more skeptical of the notion that grandstanding about what a shitbag Trump is, is an act of heroism and courage and principle.

I concede it does seem more like stating the obvious.