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    Jolly
    wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 17:00 last edited by Jolly
    #10

    And while you're thinking on that one...Why haven't all of the January 6 defendants gone to trial?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • J Jolly
      16 Aug 2022, 16:59

      No, I don't.

      Here are the facts:

      1. She was convicted of simple trespass.
      2. They gave her a hefty sentence for a misdemeanor.
      3. They arrested her using a SWAT team with a battering ram.

      Why use excessive force for a simple arrest?

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 17:00 last edited by Doctor Phibes
      #11

      @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

      Why use excessive force for a simple arrest?

      Maybe they thought she was poor. If you believe what you read, it happens all the time.

      Why only worry about police use of excessive force for this particular case?

      I don't think this woman should necessarily be in jail. Along with tens of thousands of other Americans if you compare the USA with the rest of the non-shithole countries.

      I was only joking

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      • D Doctor Phibes
        16 Aug 2022, 17:00

        @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

        Why use excessive force for a simple arrest?

        Maybe they thought she was poor. If you believe what you read, it happens all the time.

        Why only worry about police use of excessive force for this particular case?

        I don't think this woman should necessarily be in jail. Along with tens of thousands of other Americans if you compare the USA with the rest of the non-shithole countries.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 17:04 last edited by
        #12

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

        @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

        Why use excessive force for a simple arrest?

        Maybe they thought she was poor. If you believe what you read, it happens all the time.

        Why only worry about police use of excessive force for this particular case?

        I don't think this woman should necessarily be in jail. Along with tens of thousands of other Americans if you compare the USA with the rest of the non-shithole countries.

        She's a physician. They knew that. Most physicians are not poor.

        And I've never seen a SWAT team used for a misdemeanor arrest.

        Never.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Horace
          wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 17:20 last edited by
          #13

          I wonder if any paper trail must exist before a swat team is deployed. Maybe a search warrant requires more documentation than a swat team.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • J Jolly
            16 Aug 2022, 17:04

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

            @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

            Why use excessive force for a simple arrest?

            Maybe they thought she was poor. If you believe what you read, it happens all the time.

            Why only worry about police use of excessive force for this particular case?

            I don't think this woman should necessarily be in jail. Along with tens of thousands of other Americans if you compare the USA with the rest of the non-shithole countries.

            She's a physician. They knew that. Most physicians are not poor.

            And I've never seen a SWAT team used for a misdemeanor arrest.

            Never.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 17:40 last edited by
            #14

            @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

            @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

            Why use excessive force for a simple arrest?

            Maybe they thought she was poor. If you believe what you read, it happens all the time.

            She's a physician. They knew that. Most physicians are not poor.

            I was being what you chaps probably refer to as ironicalist.

            I was only joking

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            • D Doctor Phibes
              16 Aug 2022, 17:40

              @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

              @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

              Why use excessive force for a simple arrest?

              Maybe they thought she was poor. If you believe what you read, it happens all the time.

              She's a physician. They knew that. Most physicians are not poor.

              I was being what you chaps probably refer to as ironicalist.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 20:19 last edited by
              #15

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

              @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

              @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

              Why use excessive force for a simple arrest?

              Maybe they thought she was poor. If you believe what you read, it happens all the time.

              She's a physician. They knew that. Most physicians are not poor.

              I was being what you chaps probably refer to as ironicalist.

              Don't you mean ironiclast? I think that'd be a far better descriptor.

              Please love yourself.

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              • A Aqua Letifer
                16 Aug 2022, 20:19

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

                @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

                @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                Why use excessive force for a simple arrest?

                Maybe they thought she was poor. If you believe what you read, it happens all the time.

                She's a physician. They knew that. Most physicians are not poor.

                I was being what you chaps probably refer to as ironicalist.

                Don't you mean ironiclast? I think that'd be a far better descriptor.

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                George K
                wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 20:23 last edited by
                #16

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Letters From Prison:

                ironiclast

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • J Jolly
                  16 Aug 2022, 17:00

                  And while you're thinking on that one...Why haven't all of the January 6 defendants gone to trial?

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 20:43 last edited by
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                  @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                  Why haven't all of the January 6 defendants gone to trial?

                  Insufficient DOJ prosecutorial capacity, insufficient trial court capacities. Heck, we still have Guantanamo Bay detainees who has been detained for over TWENTY YEARS and still not given a fair trial. Justice delayed is justice denied. I am all for promptly giving every accused a fair trial. Let’s see an appropriation bill that increases funding to expand prosecutorial and trial court capacities.

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                  • J Jolly
                    16 Aug 2022, 17:04

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

                    @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                    Why use excessive force for a simple arrest?

                    Maybe they thought she was poor. If you believe what you read, it happens all the time.

                    Why only worry about police use of excessive force for this particular case?

                    I don't think this woman should necessarily be in jail. Along with tens of thousands of other Americans if you compare the USA with the rest of the non-shithole countries.

                    She's a physician. They knew that. Most physicians are not poor.

                    And I've never seen a SWAT team used for a misdemeanor arrest.

                    Never.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 21:18 last edited by
                    #18

                    @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                    And I've never seen a SWAT team used for a misdemeanor arrest.

                    Never.

                    When I was in 5th grade, we were all sent home from school early because a SWAT team was brought in to arrest my cousin that lived next to the school. He was being arrested for breaking windows of cars.

                    Of course, they DID have good reason to call in the SWAT Team. He was a 2 time loser and had only recently been released after biting a man’s face off. I mean that literally. 32 bites around the guy’s face…

                    The Brad

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      16 Aug 2022, 21:18

                      @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                      And I've never seen a SWAT team used for a misdemeanor arrest.

                      Never.

                      When I was in 5th grade, we were all sent home from school early because a SWAT team was brought in to arrest my cousin that lived next to the school. He was being arrested for breaking windows of cars.

                      Of course, they DID have good reason to call in the SWAT Team. He was a 2 time loser and had only recently been released after biting a man’s face off. I mean that literally. 32 bites around the guy’s face…

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 21:24 last edited by
                      #19

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Letters From Prison:

                      32 bites around the guy’s face…

                      Why stop at 32?

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                      • C Copper
                        16 Aug 2022, 21:24

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Letters From Prison:

                        32 bites around the guy’s face…

                        Why stop at 32?

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 22:56 last edited by
                        #20

                        @Copper said in Letters From Prison:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Letters From Prison:

                        32 bites around the guy’s face…

                        Why stop at 32?

                        Because it was off…

                        The Brad

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                        • L LuFins Dad
                          16 Aug 2022, 21:18

                          @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                          And I've never seen a SWAT team used for a misdemeanor arrest.

                          Never.

                          When I was in 5th grade, we were all sent home from school early because a SWAT team was brought in to arrest my cousin that lived next to the school. He was being arrested for breaking windows of cars.

                          Of course, they DID have good reason to call in the SWAT Team. He was a 2 time loser and had only recently been released after biting a man’s face off. I mean that literally. 32 bites around the guy’s face…

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 23:03 last edited by
                          #21

                          @LuFins-Dad

                          He was a 2 time loser and had only recently been released after biting a man’s face off. I mean that literally. 32 bites around the guy’s face…

                          Sounds like they should have called in the Fish and Game wardens.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • L LuFins Dad
                            16 Aug 2022, 22:56

                            @Copper said in Letters From Prison:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Letters From Prison:

                            32 bites around the guy’s face…

                            Why stop at 32?

                            Because it was off…

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 23:05 last edited by
                            #22

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Letters From Prison:

                            @Copper said in Letters From Prison:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Letters From Prison:

                            32 bites around the guy’s face…

                            Why stop at 32?

                            Because it was off…

                            Maybe he got full? Maybe the eyes were bigger than his stomach.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • C Copper
                              16 Aug 2022, 21:24

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Letters From Prison:

                              32 bites around the guy’s face…

                              Why stop at 32?

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 01:38 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                              #23

                              @Copper said in Letters From Prison:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Letters From Prison:

                              32 bites around the guy’s face…

                              Why stop at 32?

                              Presumably, that's how many teeth he had.

                              Then again, if this was Virginia....

                              I was only joking

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                              • J Jolly
                                16 Aug 2022, 16:37

                                @Horace said in Letters From Prison:

                                @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                Is it normal for a SWAT team to raid a private residence for a misdemeanor trespassing charge?

                                I'm guessing no.

                                Wonder what TG thinks?

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on 19 Aug 2022, 14:46 last edited by
                                #24

                                @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                @Horace said in Letters From Prison:

                                @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                Is it normal for a SWAT team to raid a private residence for a misdemeanor trespassing charge?

                                I'm guessing no.

                                Wonder what TG thinks?

                                I am thinking that there is more to the story than what she says.

                                From her perspective, there is this giant conspiracy that involves the

                                judge system
                                district attorney system
                                jury system
                                police officers
                                SWAT officers
                                federal law enforcement
                                etc

                                She may be the only person left in the US who is not part of it.

                                (Having said that, I don't know the whole story. She did claim that the judge gave her the sentence because she refused to date him in medical school, so there is that. LOL)

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                                • T taiwan_girl
                                  19 Aug 2022, 14:46

                                  @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                  @Horace said in Letters From Prison:

                                  @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                  Is it normal for a SWAT team to raid a private residence for a misdemeanor trespassing charge?

                                  I'm guessing no.

                                  Wonder what TG thinks?

                                  I am thinking that there is more to the story than what she says.

                                  From her perspective, there is this giant conspiracy that involves the

                                  judge system
                                  district attorney system
                                  jury system
                                  police officers
                                  SWAT officers
                                  federal law enforcement
                                  etc

                                  She may be the only person left in the US who is not part of it.

                                  (Having said that, I don't know the whole story. She did claim that the judge gave her the sentence because she refused to date him in medical school, so there is that. LOL)

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 19 Aug 2022, 14:47 last edited by
                                  #25

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Letters From Prison:

                                  @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                  @Horace said in Letters From Prison:

                                  @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                  Is it normal for a SWAT team to raid a private residence for a misdemeanor trespassing charge?

                                  I'm guessing no.

                                  Wonder what TG thinks?

                                  I am thinking that there is more to the story than what she says.

                                  From her perspective, there is this giant conspiracy that involves the

                                  judge system
                                  district attorney system
                                  jury system
                                  police officers
                                  SWAT officers
                                  federal law enforcement
                                  etc

                                  She may be the only person left in the US who is not part of it.

                                  (Having said that, I don't know the whole story. She did claim that the judge gave her the sentence because she refused to date him in medical school, so there is that. LOL)

                                  Don't make the simple complicated.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    19 Aug 2022, 14:47

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Letters From Prison:

                                    @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                    @Horace said in Letters From Prison:

                                    @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                    Is it normal for a SWAT team to raid a private residence for a misdemeanor trespassing charge?

                                    I'm guessing no.

                                    Wonder what TG thinks?

                                    I am thinking that there is more to the story than what she says.

                                    From her perspective, there is this giant conspiracy that involves the

                                    judge system
                                    district attorney system
                                    jury system
                                    police officers
                                    SWAT officers
                                    federal law enforcement
                                    etc

                                    She may be the only person left in the US who is not part of it.

                                    (Having said that, I don't know the whole story. She did claim that the judge gave her the sentence because she refused to date him in medical school, so there is that. LOL)

                                    Don't make the simple complicated.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 19 Aug 2022, 14:51 last edited by
                                    #26

                                    @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                    Don't make the simple complicated.

                                    Maybe she's nuts. That's pretty simple. There were certainly no shortage of nutjobs wandering about the Capitol.

                                    I was only joking

                                    J 1 Reply Last reply 19 Aug 2022, 14:56
                                    • D Doctor Phibes
                                      19 Aug 2022, 14:51

                                      @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                      Don't make the simple complicated.

                                      Maybe she's nuts. That's pretty simple. There were certainly no shortage of nutjobs wandering about the Capitol.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 19 Aug 2022, 14:56 last edited by
                                      #27

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

                                      @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                      Don't make the simple complicated.

                                      Maybe she's nuts. That's pretty simple. There were certainly no shortage of nutjobs wandering about the Capitol.

                                      You're not too sane, yourself. But the next time you commit a misdemeanor, I wouldn't advocate the police showing up at your house with a SWAT team and a battering ram.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        19 Aug 2022, 14:56

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

                                        @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                        Don't make the simple complicated.

                                        Maybe she's nuts. That's pretty simple. There were certainly no shortage of nutjobs wandering about the Capitol.

                                        You're not too sane, yourself. But the next time you commit a misdemeanor, I wouldn't advocate the police showing up at your house with a SWAT team and a battering ram.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 19 Aug 2022, 15:08 last edited by
                                        #28

                                        @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

                                        @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                        Don't make the simple complicated.

                                        Maybe she's nuts. That's pretty simple. There were certainly no shortage of nutjobs wandering about the Capitol.

                                        You're not too sane, yourself.

                                        I'm not the one with a small militia training in my laundry room.

                                        I was only joking

                                        J 1 Reply Last reply 19 Aug 2022, 15:11
                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          19 Aug 2022, 15:08

                                          @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

                                          @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                          Don't make the simple complicated.

                                          Maybe she's nuts. That's pretty simple. There were certainly no shortage of nutjobs wandering about the Capitol.

                                          You're not too sane, yourself.

                                          I'm not the one with a small militia training in my laundry room.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 19 Aug 2022, 15:11 last edited by
                                          #29

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

                                          @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Letters From Prison:

                                          @Jolly said in Letters From Prison:

                                          Don't make the simple complicated.

                                          Maybe she's nuts. That's pretty simple. There were certainly no shortage of nutjobs wandering about the Capitol.

                                          You're not too sane, yourself.

                                          I'm not the one with a small militia training in my laundry room.

                                          We won't know about that until we break your door in...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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