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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @Mik , do you mean to say “Liz” or “Lynn” in the thread title?

    As for the substance of the article, let’s see what @Jolly has to say about it. 🍿

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    @Axtremus said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

    @Mik , do you mean to say “Liz” or “Lynn” in the thread title?

    As for the substance of the article, let’s see what @Jolly has to say about it. 🍿

    Chaney has to go.

    During the impeachment process, she stood on principle and voted to impeach the President. Duly noted by leadership, IIRC nothing untoward happened to her.

    But her present crap is far beyond principle. It hurts the cohesiveness of the party. Like it or not, this is not Jon's GOP. We've morphed and moved beyond that. The Bushies are gone and an insult is to be called a Romney Republican. This GOP is a party of blue collar working people, of white collar cubicle rats, of conservative latinos, blacks and whites. It does not think populism is a bad word. It seeks to reduce the power of the Federal government by bringing more power back to the states. It seeks to end privileges for the wealthy and attack the roots of poverty by emphasizing opportunity and not hand-outs. This version of the GOP thinks we pay enough taxes and that low taxes spur economies. It understands the games the Left has played with the Federal court system and seeks to change those courts back to what they were intended to be - interpreters, not makers of laws.

    Secondly, not only has Cheney thumbed her nose at the national party and party unity, she has pissed on the voters of Wyoming. Instead of putting her head down and doing the best for the people she represents, she has spent her time "standing on principles" and not doing her primary job. And then, when her constituents let her know, in no uncertain terms, that they did not agree with her current actions in Washington and they did not agree with the fact she was spending the majority of her time in Washington, she ignored them. So they decided it was time to give her the old heave-ho.

    Come election day, she is going to get beat like a red-headed stepchild. Just like she deserves.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @Axtremus said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

      @Mik , do you mean to say “Liz” or “Lynn” in the thread title?

      As for the substance of the article, let’s see what @Jolly has to say about it. 🍿

      Chaney has to go.

      During the impeachment process, she stood on principle and voted to impeach the President. Duly noted by leadership, IIRC nothing untoward happened to her.

      But her present crap is far beyond principle. It hurts the cohesiveness of the party. Like it or not, this is not Jon's GOP. We've morphed and moved beyond that. The Bushies are gone and an insult is to be called a Romney Republican. This GOP is a party of blue collar working people, of white collar cubicle rats, of conservative latinos, blacks and whites. It does not think populism is a bad word. It seeks to reduce the power of the Federal government by bringing more power back to the states. It seeks to end privileges for the wealthy and attack the roots of poverty by emphasizing opportunity and not hand-outs. This version of the GOP thinks we pay enough taxes and that low taxes spur economies. It understands the games the Left has played with the Federal court system and seeks to change those courts back to what they were intended to be - interpreters, not makers of laws.

      Secondly, not only has Cheney thumbed her nose at the national party and party unity, she has pissed on the voters of Wyoming. Instead of putting her head down and doing the best for the people she represents, she has spent her time "standing on principles" and not doing her primary job. And then, when her constituents let her know, in no uncertain terms, that they did not agree with her current actions in Washington and they did not agree with the fact she was spending the majority of her time in Washington, she ignored them. So they decided it was time to give her the old heave-ho.

      Come election day, she is going to get beat like a red-headed stepchild. Just like she deserves.

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      @Jolly although I don't support her stance during the impeachment(s), I understand it. That's politics.

      Of course, as someone said, "Voting to impeach Trump when you represent a state that went 70% for him is like telling Wyoming to go vegan."

      Politics.

      So, she put her principles above politics. I suppose that's admirable, but, I doubt she represents her constituency ("democracy" after all).

      I'll forgive her vote, though I disagree. I cannot forgive her sitting in a piece of congressional theater.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        @Jolly although I don't support her stance during the impeachment(s), I understand it. That's politics.

        Of course, as someone said, "Voting to impeach Trump when you represent a state that went 70% for him is like telling Wyoming to go vegan."

        Politics.

        So, she put her principles above politics. I suppose that's admirable, but, I doubt she represents her constituency ("democracy" after all).

        I'll forgive her vote, though I disagree. I cannot forgive her sitting in a piece of congressional theater.

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        @George-K said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

        I'll forgive her vote, though I disagree. I cannot forgive her sitting in a piece of congressional theater.

        Which itself was unprincipled. Why would a deeply principled person be a figurehead for that?

        My guess is that even after she loses this election, she will find a way to capitalize on all this attention to her and her Principly McPrinciple way of living her life of public service.

        I remember that principled social climber who wrote the NYT op ed and later book about adults in the white house containing Trump's impulses. He parlayed his principles into multiple fat private sector positions, the first for Google as its government liaison.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          @George-K said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

          I'll forgive her vote, though I disagree. I cannot forgive her sitting in a piece of congressional theater.

          Which itself was unprincipled. Why would a deeply principled person be a figurehead for that?

          My guess is that even after she loses this election, she will find a way to capitalize on all this attention to her and her Principly McPrinciple way of living her life of public service.

          I remember that principled social climber who wrote the NYT op ed and later book about adults in the white house containing Trump's impulses. He parlayed his principles into multiple fat private sector positions, the first for Google as its government liaison.

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          @Horace said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

          @George-K said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

          I'll forgive her vote, though I disagree. I cannot forgive her sitting in a piece of congressional theater.

          Which itself was unprincipled. Why would a deeply principled person be a figurehead for that?

          My guess is that even after she loses this election, she will find a way to capitalize on all this attention to her and her Principly McPrinciple way of living her life of public service.

          I remember that principled social climber who wrote the NYT op ed and later book about adults in the white house containing Trump's impulses. He parlayed his principles into multiple fat private sector positions, the first for Google as its government liaison.

          PMSNBC loves Trump hating Republicans. Wonder what the name of her show will be? Mad Cow II?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Hageman slightly increases her lead (only up by 30 points)...

            https://www.wyomingpublicmedia.org/politics-government/2022-08-11/hageman-slightly-increases-her-lead-in-the-latest-u-s-house-poll

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Jolly
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              What a strange commercial...

              https://www.breitbart.com/midterm-election/2022/08/11/liz-cheney-final-ad-donald-trumps-election-claims-insidious-he-is-aiming-manipulate-americans/

              That's a whupped Lizard talking...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                What a strange commercial...

                https://www.breitbart.com/midterm-election/2022/08/11/liz-cheney-final-ad-donald-trumps-election-claims-insidious-he-is-aiming-manipulate-americans/

                That's a whupped Lizard talking...

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                @Jolly said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                What a strange commercial...

                https://www.breitbart.com/midterm-election/2022/08/11/liz-cheney-final-ad-donald-trumps-election-claims-insidious-he-is-aiming-manipulate-americans/

                That's a whupped Lizard talking...

                The Cheney campaign tactic of focusing on Trump instead of on Harriet Hageman or the needs of Wyoming voters may backfire. Polling of likely Republican voters shows that Cheney is losing to Hageman by 57 points. Previous polling has shown Cheney leading by 30 points, 28 points, and 22 points.

                I think they mean Cheney was losing rather than leading by 30 points, etc.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  yep.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Horace
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                    Anyway, her messaging being focused on Trump, in the face of certain defeat, is a clear indicator that her target audience is America, not Wyoming. I am sure she has plans for her life after office.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Horace said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                      @George-K said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                      I'll forgive her vote, though I disagree. I cannot forgive her sitting in a piece of congressional theater.

                      Which itself was unprincipled. Why would a deeply principled person be a figurehead for that?

                      My guess is that even after she loses this election, she will find a way to capitalize on all this attention to her and her Principly McPrinciple way of living her life of public service.

                      I remember that principled social climber who wrote the NYT op ed and later book about adults in the white house containing Trump's impulses. He parlayed his principles into multiple fat private sector positions, the first for Google as its government liaison.

                      PMSNBC loves Trump hating Republicans. Wonder what the name of her show will be? Mad Cow II?

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                      Jolly
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                      @Jolly said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                      @Horace said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                      @George-K said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                      I'll forgive her vote, though I disagree. I cannot forgive her sitting in a piece of congressional theater.

                      Which itself was unprincipled. Why would a deeply principled person be a figurehead for that?

                      My guess is that even after she loses this election, she will find a way to capitalize on all this attention to her and her Principly McPrinciple way of living her life of public service.

                      I remember that principled social climber who wrote the NYT op ed and later book about adults in the white house containing Trump's impulses. He parlayed his principles into multiple fat private sector positions, the first for Google as its government liaison.

                      PMSNBC loves Trump hating Republicans. Wonder what the name of her show will be? Mad Cow II?

                      I'm still voting for Mad Cow II, especially since the original Mad Cow is cutting back.

                      Or maybe...since her nickname among the GOP is now The Lizard, how about Lizard Licks of the Week?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @Jolly said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                        @Horace said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                        @George-K said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                        I'll forgive her vote, though I disagree. I cannot forgive her sitting in a piece of congressional theater.

                        Which itself was unprincipled. Why would a deeply principled person be a figurehead for that?

                        My guess is that even after she loses this election, she will find a way to capitalize on all this attention to her and her Principly McPrinciple way of living her life of public service.

                        I remember that principled social climber who wrote the NYT op ed and later book about adults in the white house containing Trump's impulses. He parlayed his principles into multiple fat private sector positions, the first for Google as its government liaison.

                        PMSNBC loves Trump hating Republicans. Wonder what the name of her show will be? Mad Cow II?

                        I'm still voting for Mad Cow II, especially since the original Mad Cow is cutting back.

                        Or maybe...since her nickname among the GOP is now The Lizard, how about Lizard Licks of the Week?

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                        Horace
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                        @Jolly said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                        @Jolly said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                        @Horace said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                        @George-K said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                        I'll forgive her vote, though I disagree. I cannot forgive her sitting in a piece of congressional theater.

                        Which itself was unprincipled. Why would a deeply principled person be a figurehead for that?

                        My guess is that even after she loses this election, she will find a way to capitalize on all this attention to her and her Principly McPrinciple way of living her life of public service.

                        I remember that principled social climber who wrote the NYT op ed and later book about adults in the white house containing Trump's impulses. He parlayed his principles into multiple fat private sector positions, the first for Google as its government liaison.

                        PMSNBC loves Trump hating Republicans. Wonder what the name of her show will be? Mad Cow II?

                        I'm still voting for Mad Cow II, especially since the original Mad Cow is cutting back.

                        Or maybe...since her nickname among the GOP is now The Lizard, how about Lizard Licks of the Week?

                        She’s well positioned for a presidential run isn’t she? I guess the primaries would be the sticking point.

                        Education is extremely important.

                        JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @Jolly said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                          @Jolly said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                          @Horace said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                          @George-K said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                          I'll forgive her vote, though I disagree. I cannot forgive her sitting in a piece of congressional theater.

                          Which itself was unprincipled. Why would a deeply principled person be a figurehead for that?

                          My guess is that even after she loses this election, she will find a way to capitalize on all this attention to her and her Principly McPrinciple way of living her life of public service.

                          I remember that principled social climber who wrote the NYT op ed and later book about adults in the white house containing Trump's impulses. He parlayed his principles into multiple fat private sector positions, the first for Google as its government liaison.

                          PMSNBC loves Trump hating Republicans. Wonder what the name of her show will be? Mad Cow II?

                          I'm still voting for Mad Cow II, especially since the original Mad Cow is cutting back.

                          Or maybe...since her nickname among the GOP is now The Lizard, how about Lizard Licks of the Week?

                          She’s well positioned for a presidential run isn’t she? I guess the primaries would be the sticking point.

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                          Jolly
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                          @Horace said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                          @Jolly said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                          @Jolly said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                          @Horace said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                          @George-K said in The conservative case for Liz Cheney:

                          I'll forgive her vote, though I disagree. I cannot forgive her sitting in a piece of congressional theater.

                          Which itself was unprincipled. Why would a deeply principled person be a figurehead for that?

                          My guess is that even after she loses this election, she will find a way to capitalize on all this attention to her and her Principly McPrinciple way of living her life of public service.

                          I remember that principled social climber who wrote the NYT op ed and later book about adults in the white house containing Trump's impulses. He parlayed his principles into multiple fat private sector positions, the first for Google as its government liaison.

                          PMSNBC loves Trump hating Republicans. Wonder what the name of her show will be? Mad Cow II?

                          I'm still voting for Mad Cow II, especially since the original Mad Cow is cutting back.

                          Or maybe...since her nickname among the GOP is now The Lizard, how about Lizard Licks of the Week?

                          She’s well positioned for a presidential run isn’t she? I guess the primaries would be the sticking point.

                          She couldn't get 5% in today's GOP.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            George K
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                            https://www.lizcheneyforva.com

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              I almost fell for it.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Don't laugh. I could see this one.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Worked for Hillary.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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