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Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?

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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    Link to PDF copy of the unsealed search warrant and property receipt:

    https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=22131380-trump-warrant-unsealed?responsive=1&ti

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    @Axtremus said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

    Link to PDF copy of the unsealed search warrant and property receipt:

    https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=22131380-trump-warrant-unsealed?responsive=1&ti

    Crickets?

    Education is extremely important.

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      et tu, Horace? Who made you the official audience of TNCR, owed comments by the rest of us? I mean, you could have reacted to Ax’s post.

      It is odd, though. Team trump seems to be changing their talking points from “hoax, they planted it” to “it was all declassified”.

      The warrant itself is intriguing but the Espionage Act is so broad it’s not clear what they think happened and how. It’ll be interesting to see what charges are filed and what gets leaked next.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        Interesting list of people who have been charged under the Espionage Act:

        Edward Snowden
        Chelsea Manning
        Julian Assange
        Daniel Ellsberg
        Julius and Ethel Rosenberg
        Eugene Debs

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Interesting list of people who have been charged under the Espionage Act:

          Edward Snowden
          Chelsea Manning
          Julian Assange
          Daniel Ellsberg
          Julius and Ethel Rosenberg
          Eugene Debs

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          @jon-nyc

          There, see? There are fine people on both sides.

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            Interesting list of people who have been charged under the Espionage Act:

            Edward Snowden
            Chelsea Manning
            Julian Assange
            Daniel Ellsberg
            Julius and Ethel Rosenberg
            Eugene Debs

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            @jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

            Interesting list of people who have been charged under the Espionage Act:

            Perhaps a more interesting list is one that considers who was not charged. Let's start with the New York Times' exposure of NSA surveillance of al-Qaeda communications by Eric Lichtblau. Not only not charged, but awarded a Pulitzer.

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              et tu, Horace? Who made you the official audience of TNCR, owed comments by the rest of us? I mean, you could have reacted to Ax’s post.

              It is odd, though. Team trump seems to be changing their talking points from “hoax, they planted it” to “it was all declassified”.

              The warrant itself is intriguing but the Espionage Act is so broad it’s not clear what they think happened and how. It’ll be interesting to see what charges are filed and what gets leaked next.

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              @jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

              et tu, Horace? Who made you the official audience of TNCR, owed comments by the rest of us? I mean, you could have reacted to Ax’s post.

              I did react to it. It made me think that some of us expected warrants to contain more information than they actually do. Then I wrote “crickets?” as an understated posting masterpiece, worthy of the official audience of TNCR.

              It is odd, though. Team trump seems to be changing their talking points from “hoax, they planted it” to “it was all declassified”.

              I suspect Trump was, and decreasingly is, genuinely concerned by the possibility of planted evidence. And I suspect TDS sufferers would be happy with planted evidence that Trump was crucified over, as long as the scheme was never exposed. Thankfully it appears unlikely anything worthy of being planted will exist.

              The warrant itself is intriguing but the Espionage Act is so broad it’s not clear what they think happened and how. It’ll be interesting to see what charges are filed and what gets leaked next.

              I’m personally gratified that TNCR is free from those settling on the comfortable conclusion that Trump planned to sell nuclear secrets to other countries.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Is Trump paranoid about planted evidence? Gee, why should that worry him? 🤣

                As far as messages changing, I always get tickled at folks who expect their enemies to stand there like a grounded piñata and let their opponents beat them with a stick. Real life doesn't work that way. Not for Schumer, Trump, Nick Saban or any public or private figure.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  @jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                  Interesting list of people who have been charged under the Espionage Act:

                  Perhaps a more interesting list is one that considers who was not charged. Let's start with the New York Times' exposure of NSA surveillance of al-Qaeda communications by Eric Lichtblau. Not only not charged, but awarded a Pulitzer.

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                  @George-K said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                  @jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                  Interesting list of people who have been charged under the Espionage Act:

                  Perhaps a more interesting list is one that considers who was not charged. Let's start with the New York Times' exposure of NSA surveillance of al-Qaeda communications by Eric Lichtblau. Not only not charged, but awarded a Pulitzer.

                  How different is that from the Pentagon Papers? NYT got a Pulitzer for those too (while Ellsberg got felony charges).

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Is Trump paranoid about planted evidence? Gee, why should that worry him? 🤣

                    As far as messages changing, I always get tickled at folks who expect their enemies to stand there like a grounded piñata and let their opponents beat them with a stick. Real life doesn't work that way. Not for Schumer, Trump, Nick Saban or any public or private figure.

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                    @Jolly said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                    As far as messages changing, I always get tickled at folks who expect their enemies to stand there like a grounded piñata and let their opponents beat them with a stick. Real life doesn't work that way. Not for Schumer, Trump, Nick Saban or any public or private figure.

                    Of course, I threw that out there as one explanation for the “crickets”. Trump supporters were still trying to figure out what their talking points are supposed to be.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      @Jolly said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                      As far as messages changing, I always get tickled at folks who expect their enemies to stand there like a grounded piñata and let their opponents beat them with a stick. Real life doesn't work that way. Not for Schumer, Trump, Nick Saban or any public or private figure.

                      Of course, I threw that out there as one explanation for the “crickets”. Trump supporters were still trying to figure out what their talking points are supposed to be.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                      @Jolly said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                      As far as messages changing, I always get tickled at folks who expect their enemies to stand there like a grounded piñata and let their opponents beat them with a stick. Real life doesn't work that way. Not for Schumer, Trump, Nick Saban or any public or private figure.

                      Of course, I threw that out there as one explanation for the “crickets”. Trump supporters were still trying to figure out what their talking points are supposed to be.

                      Personally, I'd be happy if he did something to torpedo his run in 2024. And unlike reality-challenged TDS sufferers, I know such a scenario would be possible, if he had done something sufficiently sinister. But one does not expect TDS sufferers to be able to focus on individuals outside of the TDS tribe. We all look exactly alike to you.

                      Education is extremely important.

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