Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?
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wrote on 12 Aug 2022, 12:15 last edited by jon-nyc 8 Dec 2022, 12:17
This seems like a roundabout admission that there were nuclear secrets at his house.
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wrote on 12 Aug 2022, 20:27 last edited by
Link to PDF copy of the unsealed search warrant and property receipt:
https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=22131380-trump-warrant-unsealed?responsive=1&ti
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Link to PDF copy of the unsealed search warrant and property receipt:
https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=22131380-trump-warrant-unsealed?responsive=1&ti
wrote on 13 Aug 2022, 03:58 last edited by@Axtremus said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:
Link to PDF copy of the unsealed search warrant and property receipt:
https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=22131380-trump-warrant-unsealed?responsive=1&ti
Crickets?
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wrote on 13 Aug 2022, 09:40 last edited by jon-nyc
et tu, Horace? Who made you the official audience of TNCR, owed comments by the rest of us? I mean, you could have reacted to Ax’s post.
It is odd, though. Team trump seems to be changing their talking points from “hoax, they planted it” to “it was all declassified”.
The warrant itself is intriguing but the Espionage Act is so broad it’s not clear what they think happened and how. It’ll be interesting to see what charges are filed and what gets leaked next.
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wrote on 13 Aug 2022, 09:50 last edited by
Interesting list of people who have been charged under the Espionage Act:
Edward Snowden
Chelsea Manning
Julian Assange
Daniel Ellsberg
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg
Eugene Debs -
Interesting list of people who have been charged under the Espionage Act:
Edward Snowden
Chelsea Manning
Julian Assange
Daniel Ellsberg
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg
Eugene Debs -
Interesting list of people who have been charged under the Espionage Act:
Edward Snowden
Chelsea Manning
Julian Assange
Daniel Ellsberg
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg
Eugene Debswrote on 13 Aug 2022, 12:52 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:
Interesting list of people who have been charged under the Espionage Act:
Perhaps a more interesting list is one that considers who was not charged. Let's start with the New York Times' exposure of NSA surveillance of al-Qaeda communications by Eric Lichtblau. Not only not charged, but awarded a Pulitzer.
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et tu, Horace? Who made you the official audience of TNCR, owed comments by the rest of us? I mean, you could have reacted to Ax’s post.
It is odd, though. Team trump seems to be changing their talking points from “hoax, they planted it” to “it was all declassified”.
The warrant itself is intriguing but the Espionage Act is so broad it’s not clear what they think happened and how. It’ll be interesting to see what charges are filed and what gets leaked next.
wrote on 13 Aug 2022, 13:08 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:
et tu, Horace? Who made you the official audience of TNCR, owed comments by the rest of us? I mean, you could have reacted to Ax’s post.
I did react to it. It made me think that some of us expected warrants to contain more information than they actually do. Then I wrote “crickets?” as an understated posting masterpiece, worthy of the official audience of TNCR.
It is odd, though. Team trump seems to be changing their talking points from “hoax, they planted it” to “it was all declassified”.
I suspect Trump was, and decreasingly is, genuinely concerned by the possibility of planted evidence. And I suspect TDS sufferers would be happy with planted evidence that Trump was crucified over, as long as the scheme was never exposed. Thankfully it appears unlikely anything worthy of being planted will exist.
The warrant itself is intriguing but the Espionage Act is so broad it’s not clear what they think happened and how. It’ll be interesting to see what charges are filed and what gets leaked next.
I’m personally gratified that TNCR is free from those settling on the comfortable conclusion that Trump planned to sell nuclear secrets to other countries.
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wrote on 13 Aug 2022, 13:13 last edited by
Is Trump paranoid about planted evidence? Gee, why should that worry him?
As far as messages changing, I always get tickled at folks who expect their enemies to stand there like a grounded piñata and let their opponents beat them with a stick. Real life doesn't work that way. Not for Schumer, Trump, Nick Saban or any public or private figure.
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@jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:
Interesting list of people who have been charged under the Espionage Act:
Perhaps a more interesting list is one that considers who was not charged. Let's start with the New York Times' exposure of NSA surveillance of al-Qaeda communications by Eric Lichtblau. Not only not charged, but awarded a Pulitzer.
wrote on 13 Aug 2022, 15:58 last edited by@George-K said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:
@jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:
Interesting list of people who have been charged under the Espionage Act:
Perhaps a more interesting list is one that considers who was not charged. Let's start with the New York Times' exposure of NSA surveillance of al-Qaeda communications by Eric Lichtblau. Not only not charged, but awarded a Pulitzer.
How different is that from the Pentagon Papers? NYT got a Pulitzer for those too (while Ellsberg got felony charges).
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Is Trump paranoid about planted evidence? Gee, why should that worry him?
As far as messages changing, I always get tickled at folks who expect their enemies to stand there like a grounded piñata and let their opponents beat them with a stick. Real life doesn't work that way. Not for Schumer, Trump, Nick Saban or any public or private figure.
wrote on 13 Aug 2022, 15:59 last edited by@Jolly said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:
As far as messages changing, I always get tickled at folks who expect their enemies to stand there like a grounded piñata and let their opponents beat them with a stick. Real life doesn't work that way. Not for Schumer, Trump, Nick Saban or any public or private figure.
Of course, I threw that out there as one explanation for the “crickets”. Trump supporters were still trying to figure out what their talking points are supposed to be.
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@Jolly said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:
As far as messages changing, I always get tickled at folks who expect their enemies to stand there like a grounded piñata and let their opponents beat them with a stick. Real life doesn't work that way. Not for Schumer, Trump, Nick Saban or any public or private figure.
Of course, I threw that out there as one explanation for the “crickets”. Trump supporters were still trying to figure out what their talking points are supposed to be.
wrote on 13 Aug 2022, 16:24 last edited by Horace@jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:
@Jolly said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:
As far as messages changing, I always get tickled at folks who expect their enemies to stand there like a grounded piñata and let their opponents beat them with a stick. Real life doesn't work that way. Not for Schumer, Trump, Nick Saban or any public or private figure.
Of course, I threw that out there as one explanation for the “crickets”. Trump supporters were still trying to figure out what their talking points are supposed to be.
Personally, I'd be happy if he did something to torpedo his run in 2024. And unlike reality-challenged TDS sufferers, I know such a scenario would be possible, if he had done something sufficiently sinister. But one does not expect TDS sufferers to be able to focus on individuals outside of the TDS tribe. We all look exactly alike to you.