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Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?

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  • MikM Mik

    I'm not really interested in this until the facts come out. Until then it's all posturing and speculation.

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    @Mik said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

    I'm not really interested in this until the facts come out. Until then it's all posturing and speculation.

    Agree - though I suspect it will take a while to 1) review the material obtained and 2) if something might involve prosecution, that might mean a delay in the release of that information. The virtue of patience is in short supply when something like this is in play. One can only hope that the people involved were responsible - evidence to the contrary seemingly a short distance away.

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      It's a sealed warrant, is it not?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        The warrant application is sealed, the warrant itself is given to the subject of the search.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          Then why doesn't Justice release it?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            They don’t per policy for very good reasons if you think about it.

            Comey tried to go off policy twice and it didn’t work out well.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              Hugh Hewitt writes a column that is often pro-Trump and pro-GOP. He has this to say about the Mar-A-Lago search warrant:

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/09/trump-search-warrant-make-public/

              “… the American public needs to see the warrant — all of it. The former president has a copy; he should make it public. It likely lists the items to be seized and the laws allegedly violated. The affidavit supporting the warrant is probably sealed, former prosecutors say, and Attorney General Merrick Garland can seek to unseal it.”

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                In the Yahoo excerpt I posted, it was mentioned that copies of the President's Daily Briefing were either found at Mar-a-Lago or strongly speculated to have been found. I've redd details about the handling of the PDB, and I could swear that whoever brought it to the Oval Office each day remained in the room while the President redd it, and took it away with him again.

                So how did Trump have copies of it?

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  Read the exchange.

                  White makes some good points.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      @jon-nyc that would be funny if it weren't for the documented history of the FBI altering documents to get Trump.

                      (Clinesmith's license to practice law was reinstated today)

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Nuclear secrets?

                        If true that would answer the question posed by this thread.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                            It will be very interesting to see how Trump replies to the motion to unseal.

                            Does he fight it? That wouldn’t be a very good look.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              My guess is that “information related to nuclear weapons” is the most salacious phrase someone could concoct that has some stretchy connection to some part of the documents sought. Problem is that it doesn’t lend itself to criminal motive, short of a Lex Luthor sort of crime.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                My guess is that “information related to nuclear weapons” is the most salacious phrase someone could concoct that has some stretchy connection to some part of the documents sought. Problem is that it doesn’t lend itself to criminal motive, short of a Lex Luthor sort of crime.

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                                @Horace said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                My guess is that “information related to nuclear weapons” is the most salacious phrase someone could concoct that has some stretchy connection to some part of the documents sought. Problem is that it doesn’t lend itself to criminal motive, short of a Lex Luthor sort of crime.

                                So what’s your theory as to why Trump hasn’t released the warrant?

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  @Horace said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                  My guess is that “information related to nuclear weapons” is the most salacious phrase someone could concoct that has some stretchy connection to some part of the documents sought. Problem is that it doesn’t lend itself to criminal motive, short of a Lex Luthor sort of crime.

                                  So what’s your theory as to why Trump hasn’t released the warrant?

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                  @Horace said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                  My guess is that “information related to nuclear weapons” is the most salacious phrase someone could concoct that has some stretchy connection to some part of the documents sought. Problem is that it doesn’t lend itself to criminal motive, short of a Lex Luthor sort of crime.

                                  So what’s your theory as to why Trump hasn’t released the warrant?

                                  Don’t know. But I’ll be a little surprised if they fight it tomorrow.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    My guess is that “information related to nuclear weapons” is the most salacious phrase someone could concoct that has some stretchy connection to some part of the documents sought. Problem is that it doesn’t lend itself to criminal motive, short of a Lex Luthor sort of crime.

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                                    @Horace said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                    Problem is that it doesn’t lend itself to criminal motive, short of a Lex Luthor sort of crime.

                                    Problem for whom? Does the statute in question require the establishment of motive?

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      @Horace said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                      Problem is that it doesn’t lend itself to criminal motive, short of a Lex Luthor sort of crime.

                                      Problem for whom? Does the statute in question require the establishment of motive?

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                      @Horace said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                      Problem is that it doesn’t lend itself to criminal motive, short of a Lex Luthor sort of crime.

                                      Problem for whom? Does the statute in question require the establishment of motive?

                                      Problem for those hoping this marks the death knell of his political career. Contrary to popular belief, I suspect there are enough swing votes at play that a red handed Trump caught dirty dealing government secrets would destroy him for 2024.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                        @Horace said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                        My guess is that “information related to nuclear weapons” is the most salacious phrase someone could concoct that has some stretchy connection to some part of the documents sought. Problem is that it doesn’t lend itself to criminal motive, short of a Lex Luthor sort of crime.

                                        So what’s your theory as to why Trump hasn’t released the warrant?

                                        Don’t know. But I’ll be a little surprised if they fight it tomorrow.

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                                        @Horace said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                        @Horace said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                        My guess is that “information related to nuclear weapons” is the most salacious phrase someone could concoct that has some stretchy connection to some part of the documents sought. Problem is that it doesn’t lend itself to criminal motive, short of a Lex Luthor sort of crime.

                                        So what’s your theory as to why Trump hasn’t released the warrant?

                                        Don’t know. But I’ll be a little surprised if they fight it tomorrow.

                                        I would be too. It being made public is just a matter of time, and it’s hard to imagine them perceiving an advantage in a delay that would offset the optics of them fighting it.

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          @Horace said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                          My guess is that “information related to nuclear weapons” is the most salacious phrase someone could concoct that has some stretchy connection to some part of the documents sought. Problem is that it doesn’t lend itself to criminal motive, short of a Lex Luthor sort of crime.

                                          So what’s your theory as to why Trump hasn’t released the warrant?

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                          @Horace said in Why hasn’t team Trump released the warrant?:

                                          My guess is that “information related to nuclear weapons” is the most salacious phrase someone could concoct that has some stretchy connection to some part of the documents sought. Problem is that it doesn’t lend itself to criminal motive, short of a Lex Luthor sort of crime.

                                          So what’s your theory as to why Trump hasn’t released the warrant?

                                          Why would anyone petition to unseal a warrant against themselves, or why would they risk violating a court ordered public seal of a warrant? I don't know much about court ordered sealed warrants, but it seems that the seal would apply to all parties to not violate including the recipient.

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