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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #677

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/22/politics/republican-reaction-trump-secret-records/index.html

    GOP senators reject Trump's declassification comments and call for proper storage of secret records

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    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on last edited by
      #678

      https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2022/09/22/trump-arbitrator-lawyers-need-proof-FBI-planted-evidence/2961663884859/

      QUOTE
      The special master appointed to review documents seized by the FBI from Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence last month, told the former president's lawyers to produce evidence to back up their claims of planted evidence.

      In court documents filed Thursday, Judge Raymond Dearie asked Trump's lawyers to say definitively if they believe the FBI planted evidence while serving a search warrant in August at the home in Palm Springs, Fla.

      "This submission shall be Plaintiff's final opportunity to raise any factual dispute as to the completeness and accuracy of the Detailed Property Inventory," Dearie wrote.
      UNQUOTE

      I am pretty confident that no such evidence will be produced. lol 🤔

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      • AxtremusA Offline
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        Axtremus
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        #679

        Another “put up or shut up” moment for Trump that is long overdue.

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
          #680

          This is a recurring theme in Magat trials. They claim one thing for the credulous base and are far more cautious in court.

          Why? Lying to the credulous base pays off. Lie to the courts and you do time.

          Note that no one from team trump has claimed in court that the relevant documents were declassified. Only that they could have been.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #681

            Must hurt to hate other people that much.

            I wonder...If a guy wearing a MAGA cap gave you a contribution for your charitable causes, would you turn it down?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Must hurt to hate other people that much.

              I wonder...If a guy wearing a MAGA cap gave you a contribution for your charitable causes, would you turn it down?

              jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #682

              @Jolly Nope.

              And I’ve been known to donate to charitable causes based on requests from friends that wear Maga hats.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Must hurt to hate other people that much.

                I wonder...If a guy wearing a MAGA cap gave you a contribution for your charitable causes, would you turn it down?

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                #683

                @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                Must hurt to hate other people that much.

                Jon's hatred acts as a natural counterbalance to the almost Christ-like purity and wisdom of Donald Trump, who has never had a mean-spirited thought in his entire life.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  Must hurt to hate other people that much.

                  Jon's hatred acts as a natural counterbalance to the almost Christ-like purity and wisdom of Donald Trump, who has never had a mean-spirited thought in his entire life.

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #684

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  Must hurt to hate other people that much.

                  Jon's hatred acts as a natural counterbalance to the almost Christ-like purity and wisdom of Donald Trump, who has never had a mean-spirited thought in his entire life.

                  All of which is smoothed and balanced by examples of bad stuff on the right in response to bad stuff on the left. We have a delicate and beautiful ecosystem here.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #685

                    Not quite.

                    Seems like most of the violence comes from the Left, specifically the fringe.

                    Look at the latest example of the guy killing the young man by driving over him...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • Catseye3C Offline
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                      Catseye3
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #686

                      You can't ask for a better example than this thread of the discord that Donald Trump emits like a cloud of fairy dust wherever he goes.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                        You can't ask for a better example than this thread of the discord that Donald Trump emits like a cloud of fairy dust wherever he goes.

                        HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #687

                        @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        You can't ask for a better example than this thread of the discord that Donald Trump emits like a cloud of fairy dust wherever he goes.

                        On that one, the righteous mob hatred comes from one side unequivocally (in the form of culturally encouraged TDS), and only by squinty narrative from the other side.

                        But of course if any Trump supporter reacts to being hated, they are just as bad as the other side who hates them. Probably because of their deep seeded self-loathing about being low status, if TDS sufferers are correct with their keen observations.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                          #688

                          5908c8b7-9765-43e7-a388-e106d919e210-image.png

                          In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

                          I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

                          Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

                          I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            5908c8b7-9765-43e7-a388-e106d919e210-image.png

                            In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

                            I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

                            Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

                            I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

                            HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #689

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            5908c8b7-9765-43e7-a388-e106d919e210-image.png

                            In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

                            I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

                            Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

                            I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

                            If one never takes a political side, one doesn't risk being associated with idiots. I see the appeal.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              5908c8b7-9765-43e7-a388-e106d919e210-image.png

                              In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

                              I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

                              Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

                              I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

                              If one never takes a political side, one doesn't risk being associated with idiots. I see the appeal.

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #690

                              @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              If one never takes a political side, one doesn't risk being associated with idiots. I see the appeal.

                              If one always supports the decisions made by one political party over another, then one doesn't risk having to actually think for oneself. I see the appeal.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                If one never takes a political side, one doesn't risk being associated with idiots. I see the appeal.

                                If one always supports the decisions made by one political party over another, then one doesn't risk having to actually think for oneself. I see the appeal.

                                HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #691

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                If one never takes a political side, one doesn't risk being associated with idiots. I see the appeal.

                                If one always supports the decisions made by one political party over another, then one doesn't risk having to actually think for oneself. I see the appeal.

                                You're always free to accuse anybody of not thinking about any particular opinion they post. It's not fair and not very nice to make these sorts of blanket accusations, out of any specific context. Please try to be nicer, this place can get ugly at times.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  5908c8b7-9765-43e7-a388-e106d919e210-image.png

                                  In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

                                  I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

                                  Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

                                  I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

                                  JollyJ Offline
                                  JollyJ Offline
                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                  #692

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                  5908c8b7-9765-43e7-a388-e106d919e210-image.png

                                  In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

                                  I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

                                  Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

                                  I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

                                  Ok, ya got one.

                                  Out of 120,000 people.

                                  Good for you!

                                  Here, I'll give you a freebie:
                                  alt text

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    5908c8b7-9765-43e7-a388-e106d919e210-image.png

                                    In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

                                    I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

                                    Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

                                    I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

                                    RenaudaR Offline
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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #693

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                    5908c8b7-9765-43e7-a388-e106d919e210-image.png

                                    In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

                                    Are those the selfies he took of himself while in the Capitol?

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      5908c8b7-9765-43e7-a388-e106d919e210-image.png

                                      In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

                                      I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

                                      Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

                                      I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

                                      Ok, ya got one.

                                      Out of 120,000 people.

                                      Good for you!

                                      Here, I'll give you a freebie:
                                      alt text

                                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                      #694

                                      @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      Ok, ya got one.
                                      Out of 120,000 people.
                                      Good for you!
                                      Here, I'll give you a freebie:

                                      There's plenty of unpleasant characters on both sides. I'm happy to admit the left are toxic. There's no shortage of toxicity on the other side, even if it's not always as obvious. There's a guy cycles by where I work with a big sign saying 'FUCK JOE BIDEN, AND FUCK YOU IF YOU VOTED FOR HIM'. Another nutter, obviously. People who think that 'Let's go Brandon' is hilariously funny are kind of missing the point, too. Well, to clarify, they're missing a point other than that repeating any joke 25 times is more of a mental condition than actual humour.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                        I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

                                        That's precisely as I've heard it described. You never know when he's going to undermine your entire legal strategy with a tweet Truth Social thingy.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #695

                                        @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                        @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                        I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

                                        That's precisely as I've heard it described. You never know when he's going to undermine your entire legal strategy with a tweet Truth Social thingy.

                                        A funny exchange between Josh Barro and Ken White on Trump's Hannity interview:

                                        Josh Barro:
                                        So, does that statement on television? Does that undermine a potential criminal defense in which he would claim that he did not personally intend to take certain government documents with him certain places, if he's on television claiming I declassified everything in my own mind?

                                        Ken White:
                                        Okay. Yes. If you want to be hypercritical here, Josh, that was confessing to elements of several crimes on national television. But we're grading on a curve here in terms of the wisdom of moves, in terms of how well they work in your federal criminal defense we have to compare it to what Trump is normally like. And you're getting perilously close to criticizing the font on a two year old's I love you mommy and daddy card so...

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #696

                                          53%

                                          https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/majority-see-fbi-as-bidens-personal-gestapo-after-trump-raid

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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