Mar-a-Lago raided

[Jolly]

Oh, there is quite a bit of disturbing stuff going on, but so many have bitten the lure of the shiny lies or stretches of the truth cast in front of them by most of the mass media, they are more worried about some 60 year-old guy in a red MAGA cap, than by a federal agency that is actively trying to effect elections and selectively enforce the law.

[Axtremus]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/22/politics/republican-reaction-trump-secret-records/index.html

GOP senators reject Trump's declassification comments and call for proper storage of secret records

[taiwan_girl]

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2022/09/22/trump-arbitrator-lawyers-need-proof-FBI-planted-evidence/2961663884859/

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The special master appointed to review documents seized by the FBI from Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence last month, told the former president's lawyers to produce evidence to back up their claims of planted evidence.

In court documents filed Thursday, Judge Raymond Dearie asked Trump's lawyers to say definitively if they believe the FBI planted evidence while serving a search warrant in August at the home in Palm Springs, Fla.

"This submission shall be Plaintiff's final opportunity to raise any factual dispute as to the completeness and accuracy of the Detailed Property Inventory," Dearie wrote.
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I am pretty confident that no such evidence will be produced. lol

[Axtremus]

Another “put up or shut up” moment for Trump that is long overdue.

[jon-nyc]

This is a recurring theme in Magat trials. They claim one thing for the credulous base and are far more cautious in court.

Why? Lying to the credulous base pays off. Lie to the courts and you do time.

Note that no one from team trump has claimed in court that the relevant documents were declassified. Only that they could have been.

[Jolly]

Must hurt to hate other people that much.

I wonder...If a guy wearing a MAGA cap gave you a contribution for your charitable causes, would you turn it down?

[jon-nyc]

@Jolly Nope.

And I’ve been known to donate to charitable causes based on requests from friends that wear Maga hats.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

Must hurt to hate other people that much.

Jon's hatred acts as a natural counterbalance to the almost Christ-like purity and wisdom of Donald Trump, who has never had a mean-spirited thought in his entire life.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

@Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

Must hurt to hate other people that much.

Jon's hatred acts as a natural counterbalance to the almost Christ-like purity and wisdom of Donald Trump, who has never had a mean-spirited thought in his entire life.

All of which is smoothed and balanced by examples of bad stuff on the right in response to bad stuff on the left. We have a delicate and beautiful ecosystem here.

[Jolly]

Not quite.

Seems like most of the violence comes from the Left, specifically the fringe.

Look at the latest example of the guy killing the young man by driving over him...

[Catseye3]

You can't ask for a better example than this thread of the discord that Donald Trump emits like a cloud of fairy dust wherever he goes.

[Horace]

@Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

You can't ask for a better example than this thread of the discord that Donald Trump emits like a cloud of fairy dust wherever he goes.

On that one, the righteous mob hatred comes from one side unequivocally (in the form of culturally encouraged TDS), and only by squinty narrative from the other side.

But of course if any Trump supporter reacts to being hated, they are just as bad as the other side who hates them. Probably because of their deep seeded self-loathing about being low status, if TDS sufferers are correct with their keen observations.

[Doctor Phibes]

In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

If one never takes a political side, one doesn't risk being associated with idiots. I see the appeal.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

If one never takes a political side, one doesn't risk being associated with idiots. I see the appeal.

If one always supports the decisions made by one political party over another, then one doesn't risk having to actually think for oneself. I see the appeal.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

@Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

If one never takes a political side, one doesn't risk being associated with idiots. I see the appeal.

If one always supports the decisions made by one political party over another, then one doesn't risk having to actually think for oneself. I see the appeal.

You're always free to accuse anybody of not thinking about any particular opinion they post. It's not fair and not very nice to make these sorts of blanket accusations, out of any specific context. Please try to be nicer, this place can get ugly at times.

[Jolly]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

I'm guessing he reacted to being hated by growing that moustache.

Or maybe he's an undercover FBI guy.

I know, it's easy to laugh. What a fucking nutbag.

Ok, ya got one.

Out of 120,000 people.

Good for you!

Here, I'll give you a freebie:

[Renauda]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

In case you missed it, here's one of the guys arrested at the Capitol - presumably some kind of weird cosplay thang going on.

Are those the selfies he took of himself while in the Capitol?

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

Ok, ya got one.
Out of 120,000 people.
Good for you!
Here, I'll give you a freebie:

There's plenty of unpleasant characters on both sides. I'm happy to admit the left are toxic. There's no shortage of toxicity on the other side, even if it's not always as obvious. There's a guy cycles by where I work with a big sign saying 'FUCK JOE BIDEN, AND FUCK YOU IF YOU VOTED FOR HIM'. Another nutter, obviously. People who think that 'Let's go Brandon' is hilariously funny are kind of missing the point, too. Well, to clarify, they're missing a point other than that repeating any joke 25 times is more of a mental condition than actual humour.

[jon-nyc]

@jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

@Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

I would suggest that Trump’s trouble finding lawyers is 1) he has a reputation for not following their advice then blaming them when things go south and; 2) he is notorious for refusing to pay his bills.

That's precisely as I've heard it described. You never know when he's going to undermine your entire legal strategy with a tweet Truth Social thingy.

A funny exchange between Josh Barro and Ken White on Trump's Hannity interview:

Josh Barro:
So, does that statement on television? Does that undermine a potential criminal defense in which he would claim that he did not personally intend to take certain government documents with him certain places, if he's on television claiming I declassified everything in my own mind?

Ken White:
Okay. Yes. If you want to be hypercritical here, Josh, that was confessing to elements of several crimes on national television. But we're grading on a curve here in terms of the wisdom of moves, in terms of how well they work in your federal criminal defense we have to compare it to what Trump is normally like. And you're getting perilously close to criticizing the font on a two year old's I love you mommy and daddy card so...