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    Axtremus
    wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 12:27 last edited by
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/21/mar-a-lago-appeal-court-ruling/

    Appeals court: Justice Dept. can use Mar-a-Lago documents in criminal probe
    
Federal appeals panel says Judge Aileen Cannon ‘abused’ her discretion in requiring outside review of seized classified documents

    The opinion: https://docs-cdn-prod.news-engineering.aws.wapo.pub/publish_document/dd14f429-6a6e-47a1-9059-6190db2df638/published/dd14f429-6a6e-47a1-9059-6190db2df638.pdf

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    • J Jolly
      22 Sept 2022, 12:24

      And living in your head. Rent free!

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 12:54 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      And living in your head. Rent free!

      Translation: I can’t defend him either, so I’ll make it look like you’re the one with the problem for even noticing

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 13:08 last edited by
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        Nah, it's a fishing expidition. Always has been.

        Did Trump do something wrong? Probably. But no more than his predecessors or even some in positions not as high in the government.

        It's never been about Justice or what is right. It's about negating the threat and derailing the Disruptor.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • J Jolly
          22 Sept 2022, 13:08

          Nah, it's a fishing expidition. Always has been.

          Did Trump do something wrong? Probably. But no more than his predecessors or even some in positions not as high in the government.

          It's never been about Justice or what is right. It's about negating the threat and derailing the Disruptor.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 13:12 last edited by
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          @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

          But no more than his predecessors or even some in positions not as high in the government.

          Didn't Trump pass stricter laws to stamp this sort of thing out - or was that just for the little people?

          I was only joking

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            Jolly
            wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 13:26 last edited by
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            I stand by my statement above. I find it to be an unassailable point by even cursory observation.

            Anything else is just knitting lace around the issue.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • D Doctor Phibes
              22 Sept 2022, 13:12

              @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              But no more than his predecessors or even some in positions not as high in the government.

              Didn't Trump pass stricter laws to stamp this sort of thing out - or was that just for the little people?

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              Renauda
              wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 14:58 last edited by
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              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

              But no more than his predecessors or even some in positions not as high in the government.

              Didn't Trump pass stricter laws to stamp this sort of thing out - or was that just for the little people?

              Probably not as he wouldn’t have been thinking of little people at the moment.

              Elbows up!

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              • R Renauda
                22 Sept 2022, 14:58

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                But no more than his predecessors or even some in positions not as high in the government.

                Didn't Trump pass stricter laws to stamp this sort of thing out - or was that just for the little people?

                Probably not as he wouldn’t have been thinking of little people at the moment.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 15:22 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                #667

                @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                But no more than his predecessors or even some in positions not as high in the government.

                Didn't Trump pass stricter laws to stamp this sort of thing out - or was that just for the little people?

                Probably not as he wouldn’t have been thinking of little people at the moment.

                I also seem to remember him leading his devoted followers in a chant of 'lock her up!'

                Or was that him being sarcastic and humourous? He is as funny as all heck when he calls for his opponents to be imprisoned.

                Irony works both ways, it appears, as does the hypocrisy.

                I was only joking

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  22 Sept 2022, 15:22

                  @Renauda said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  But no more than his predecessors or even some in positions not as high in the government.

                  Didn't Trump pass stricter laws to stamp this sort of thing out - or was that just for the little people?

                  Probably not as he wouldn’t have been thinking of little people at the moment.

                  I also seem to remember him leading his devoted followers in a chant of 'lock her up!'

                  Or was that him being sarcastic and humourous? He is as funny as all heck when he calls for his opponents to be imprisoned.

                  Irony works both ways, it appears, as does the hypocrisy.

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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 15:26 last edited by
                  #668

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  I also seem to remember him leading his devoted followers in a chant of 'lock her up!'

                  I think that was Michael "Crazylegs" Flynn.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • C Catseye3
                    22 Sept 2022, 15:26

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    I also seem to remember him leading his devoted followers in a chant of 'lock her up!'

                    I think that was Michael "Crazylegs" Flynn.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 15:28 last edited by
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                    @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    I also seem to remember him leading his devoted followers in a chant of 'lock her up!'

                    I think that was Michael "Crazylegs" Flynn.

                    Link to video

                    I was only joking

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                    • D Doctor Phibes
                      22 Sept 2022, 15:28

                      @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      I also seem to remember him leading his devoted followers in a chant of 'lock her up!'

                      I think that was Michael "Crazylegs" Flynn.

                      Link to video

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                      Catseye3
                      wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 15:28 last edited by
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                      @Doctor-Phibes

                      Hmm, I must've missed that performance.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 15:34 last edited by
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                        Did they ever lock up any of those FBI guys that lied their ass off about Russia! Russia! Russia! or the one who fabricated evidence for a warrant or maybe those guys who knowingly brought charges against an innocent man or maybe the ones who engaged in entrapment games?

                        Nah, they didn't.

                        Go peddle your papers to somebody who might buy the lie that this isn't all politics...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • J Jolly
                          22 Sept 2022, 15:34

                          Did they ever lock up any of those FBI guys that lied their ass off about Russia! Russia! Russia! or the one who fabricated evidence for a warrant or maybe those guys who knowingly brought charges against an innocent man or maybe the ones who engaged in entrapment games?

                          Nah, they didn't.

                          Go peddle your papers to somebody who might buy the lie that this isn't all politics...

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 15:42 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                          #672

                          @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          Did they ever lock up any of those FBI guys that lied their ass off about Russia! Russia! Russia! or the one who fabricated evidence for a warrant or maybe those guys who knowingly brought charges against an innocent man or maybe the ones who engaged in entrapment games?

                          Nah, they didn't.

                          Go peddle your papers to somebody who might buy the lie that this isn't all politics...

                          Which genius signed a law defining the mishandling of classified documents a felony and increasing the potential punishment?

                          I was only joking

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                          • D Doctor Phibes
                            22 Sept 2022, 15:42

                            @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            Did they ever lock up any of those FBI guys that lied their ass off about Russia! Russia! Russia! or the one who fabricated evidence for a warrant or maybe those guys who knowingly brought charges against an innocent man or maybe the ones who engaged in entrapment games?

                            Nah, they didn't.

                            Go peddle your papers to somebody who might buy the lie that this isn't all politics...

                            Which genius signed a law defining the mishandling of classified documents a felony and increasing the potential punishment?

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 15:55 last edited by
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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            Did they ever lock up any of those FBI guys that lied their ass off about Russia! Russia! Russia! or the one who fabricated evidence for a warrant or maybe those guys who knowingly brought charges against an innocent man or maybe the ones who engaged in entrapment games?

                            Nah, they didn't.

                            Go peddle your papers to somebody who might buy the lie that this isn't all politics...

                            Which genius signed a law defining the mishandling of classified documents a felony and increasing the potential punishment?

                            Here, have fun:

                            https://www.congress.gov/115/plaws/publ118/PLAW-115publ118.pdf

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 15:59 last edited by
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                              BTW, new allegations of the FBI cooking the books and lying...

                              https://nypost.com/2022/09/21/fbi-hero-paying-the-price-for-exposing-unjust-persecution-of-conservative-americans/

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Rainman
                                wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 17:35 last edited by
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                                That NY Post article is disturbing. Thanks for posting that, Jolly.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 20:05 last edited by
                                  #676

                                  Oh, there is quite a bit of disturbing stuff going on, but so many have bitten the lure of the shiny lies or stretches of the truth cast in front of them by most of the mass media, they are more worried about some 60 year-old guy in a red MAGA cap, than by a federal agency that is actively trying to effect elections and selectively enforce the law.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 22 Sept 2022, 21:43 last edited by
                                    #677

                                    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/22/politics/republican-reaction-trump-secret-records/index.html

                                    GOP senators reject Trump's declassification comments and call for proper storage of secret records

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on 23 Sept 2022, 00:30 last edited by
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                                      https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2022/09/22/trump-arbitrator-lawyers-need-proof-FBI-planted-evidence/2961663884859/

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                                      The special master appointed to review documents seized by the FBI from Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence last month, told the former president's lawyers to produce evidence to back up their claims of planted evidence.

                                      In court documents filed Thursday, Judge Raymond Dearie asked Trump's lawyers to say definitively if they believe the FBI planted evidence while serving a search warrant in August at the home in Palm Springs, Fla.

                                      "This submission shall be Plaintiff's final opportunity to raise any factual dispute as to the completeness and accuracy of the Detailed Property Inventory," Dearie wrote.
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                                      I am pretty confident that no such evidence will be produced. lol 🤔

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 23 Sept 2022, 02:22 last edited by
                                        #679

                                        Another “put up or shut up” moment for Trump that is long overdue.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 23 Sept 2022, 03:07 last edited by jon-nyc
                                          #680

                                          This is a recurring theme in Magat trials. They claim one thing for the credulous base and are far more cautious in court.

                                          Why? Lying to the credulous base pays off. Lie to the courts and you do time.

                                          Note that no one from team trump has claimed in court that the relevant documents were declassified. Only that they could have been.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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