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The Price of Sinema

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Will Schumer pay it?

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2022/08/04/sinema-wants-changes-to-reconciliation-bill-that-may-torpedo-the-whole-thing-n1618274

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • MikM Offline
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      Sinema is the new Manchin. She just let him take the heat.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        And she’s opposed to closing the carried interest loophole used largely by hedge fund managers to lower their tax rates.

        What a lovely Senator they selected.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          And she’s opposed to closing the carried interest loophole used largely by hedge fund managers to lower their tax rates.

          What a lovely Senator they selected.

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          @jon-nyc said in The Price of Sinema:

          And she’s opposed to closing the carried interest loophole used largely by hedge fund managers to lower their tax rates.

          What a lovely Senator they selected.

          Why do you suppose she opposes that, Jon?

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #5

            There’s really no principled reason to oppose that, there’s only donations by the private equity and hedge fund guys who purchased the loophole in the first place.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
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              #6

              It’s hard to think of another tax loophole that Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden all agreed should be closed.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                There’s really no principled reason to oppose that, there’s only donations by the private equity and hedge fund guys who purchased the loophole in the first place.

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                @jon-nyc said in The Price of Sinema:

                There’s really no principled reason to oppose that, there’s only donations by the private equity and hedge fund guys who purchased the loophole in the first place.

                Agreed. Nobody looks good to the average voter by defending the carried interest loophole.

                Sinema made known early on that she won’t support closing the carried interest loophole. In terms of dollar value it’s a fairly small piece compared to the rest of the deal. I suspect Manchin and Schumer left the carried interest tax provision in there just so Sinema has something to remove and call a “win.”

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  The new agreement with Sinema includes a new 1 percent excise tax on stock buybacks that will bring in $73 billion, far more than the $14 billion raised by the carried interest provision, according to a Democrat familiar with the deal.

                  Isn't she swell?

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    That buyback tax is a new tax on the stock market.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      Right, but at least a few hundred hedge fund executives will avoid paying normal income tax on their earnings.

                      Well done, Krysten!

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        I wonder if it will cause a measurable move towards dividends rather than buybacks.

                        Education is extremely important.

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