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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    Limiting cash...

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/357072?fs=e&s=cl

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #2

      NIS 6,000 is about $1700.

      Wow.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • AxtremusA Offline
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        #3

        Very “big brother.”
        How would you like it if the same rule were to be enacted in the USA?

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #4

          How would you like it?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            How would you like it?

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #5

            @Jolly don't we already have something similar, but for $10,000 cash transactions?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              #6

              Bank deposits of $10K or over have to be reported, yes.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                Bank deposits of $10K or over have to be reported, yes.

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #7

                @Mik said in Meanwhile, in Israel...:

                Bank deposits of $10K or over have to be reported, yes.

                Withdrawals, too?

                This Israeli law covers withdrawals and checks. It's all about taxation and the underground economy.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Mik said in Meanwhile, in Israel...:

                  Bank deposits of $10K or over have to be reported, yes.

                  Withdrawals, too?

                  This Israeli law covers withdrawals and checks. It's all about taxation and the underground economy.

                  AxtremusA Offline
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                  @Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Israel...:

                  @Mik said in Meanwhile, in Israel...:

                  Bank deposits of $10K or over have to be reported, yes.

                  Withdrawals, too?

                  This Israeli law covers withdrawals and checks. It's all about taxation and the underground economy.

                  Not only that, the Israeli law covers also transactions between individuals. E.g., you will not be able to legally pay your plumber or carpenter or electrician with cash beyond the legally prescribed amount in Israel.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    How would you like it?

                    AxtremusA Offline
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                    Axtremus
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                    @Jolly said in Meanwhile, in Israel...:

                    How would you like it?

                    I don’t like it at all, it’s very unAmerican.

                    Now you. How would you like it?

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                    • bachophileB Online
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                      bachophile
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                      #10

                      The bitter truth is that a huge amount of small business transactions especially house repairs, plumbers electricians etc are more than happy to take cash, forego a receipt, and give the client a discount so unless one really needs a piece of paper, to make a deduction for example, it’s simpler to just pay cash and millions in potential taxes get lost. If tax revenue increases, then the idea is that ultimately prices of services will drop.

                      Still very hard to enforce. No one knows how I pay the plumber, and unless someone has a specific desire to report someone, it goes unchecked.

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                        https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/business-taxes/discussion/can-i-give-out-form-1099misc-as-an-individual-and-not-as-a-registered-business-to-someone-who-did/00/545414

                        If you hate your handyman you can use the 1099 now.

                        As a private person, you are not required to issue a form 1099-MISC. however, the IRS takes the position that you may issue the form if you want to, on the grounds that it helps to increase tax compliance.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          I had no idea there was a strain of Jews that thought interest was verboten.

                          We actually had a work-around for some Muslim clients when I was at credit Suisse.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
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                            Wouldn't know about all this money stuff, but I have it on very good authority you can get a house roofed down here for $2800 cash, if you supply the materials. Or so I'm told...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              jon-nyc
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                              They e made it harder to transact in cash here without reporting, but it’s never been illegal.

                              One change which I think hit this year is Venmo, etc issuing 1099s.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                They e made it harder to transact in cash here without reporting, but it’s never been illegal.

                                One change which I think hit this year is Venmo, etc issuing 1099s.

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, in Israel...:

                                They e made it harder to transact in cash here without reporting, but it’s never been illegal.

                                One change which I think hit this year is Venmo, etc issuing 1099s.

                                I've long been a fan of cash, but I'm also a fan of people paying their taxes. I would love to see a switch to national sales tax. I think there are hundreds of millions of dollars in cash earnings that go unreported.

                                The Brad

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                                  It's too bad that consumption taxes are so regressive. They are at least simple and elegant.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, in Israel...:

                                    They e made it harder to transact in cash here without reporting, but it’s never been illegal.

                                    One change which I think hit this year is Venmo, etc issuing 1099s.

                                    I've long been a fan of cash, but I'm also a fan of people paying their taxes. I would love to see a switch to national sales tax. I think there are hundreds of millions of dollars in cash earnings that go unreported.

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Israel...:

                                    national sales tax

                                    The transition would be a problem.

                                    The money that I would spend on sales tax has already been taxed, way back when I earned it.

                                    I'm sure you can find a lot of politicians that would love to tax that same money again.

                                    But I wouldn't like it.

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                                    • CopperC Copper

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Israel...:

                                      national sales tax

                                      The transition would be a problem.

                                      The money that I would spend on sales tax has already been taxed, way back when I earned it.

                                      I'm sure you can find a lot of politicians that would love to tax that same money again.

                                      But I wouldn't like it.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      @Copper said in Meanwhile, in Israel...:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Israel...:

                                      national sales tax

                                      The transition would be a problem.

                                      The money that I would spend on sales tax has already been taxed, way back when I earned it.

                                      I'm sure you can find a lot of politicians that would love to tax that same money again.

                                      But I wouldn't like it.

                                      You’re probably just old enough to remember you could save every receipt for the year and deduct every penny of sales tax you paid off of your income. Then eventually they took that away in return for bumping the standard deduction, IIRC.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        It's too bad that consumption taxes are so regressive. They are at least simple and elegant.

                                        jon-nycJ Online
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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Israel...:

                                        It's too bad that consumption taxes are so regressive. They are at least simple and elegant.

                                        Yeah. Seems like you could make them less regressive by strategically exempting a few classes of things or through targeted refunds.

                                        We do the first in most states with sales tax.

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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