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    Horace
    wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 18:33 last edited by
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    He’s clearly not a public figure for the purposes of defamation. He’s only famous because of the alleged defamation.

    Education is extremely important.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 18:34 last edited by
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      I thought he already settled.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        28 Jul 2022, 18:34

        I thought he already settled.

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        George K
        wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 18:34 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Sandmann Loses:

        I thought he already settled.

        He settled with CNN and another outlet. Not with the others.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • G George K
          28 Jul 2022, 18:34

          @jon-nyc said in Sandmann Loses:

          I thought he already settled.

          He settled with CNN and another outlet. Not with the others.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 18:36 last edited by
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          @George-K said in Sandmann Loses:

          @jon-nyc said in Sandmann Loses:

          I thought he already settled.

          He settled with CNN and another outlet. Not with the others.

          I wonder if he had better cases against them or if they just chose not to gamble.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            Copper
            wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 18:55 last edited by
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            He wasn't a public figure

            They weren't journalists

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 19:08 last edited by
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              I wonder how much of the earlier settlements he spent on these suits?

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • J jon-nyc
                28 Jul 2022, 19:08

                I wonder how much of the earlier settlements he spent on these suits?

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                George K
                wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 19:13 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in Sandmann Loses:

                I wonder how much of the earlier settlements he spent on these suits?

                Good question. Related, do you think that those were on contingency?

                Remember he fired Lin Wood?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 19:15 last edited by
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                  People. All lawyers ask for Summary Judgement at the beginning of a civil case. Except in the absolute most cut-and-dried cases, SJ is denied by the judge. This only mean the case proceeds as any civil case might. Picking juries, etc.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 19:16 last edited by
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                    I don’t know. It’s common in personal injury but I don’t know where else.

                    Now I’m waiting for the Advisory Opinions podcast about it. And maybe Ken White’s new podcast.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    • J Jolly
                      28 Jul 2022, 19:15

                      People. All lawyers ask for Summary Judgement at the beginning of a civil case. Except in the absolute most cut-and-dried cases, SJ is denied by the judge. This only mean the case proceeds as any civil case might. Picking juries, etc.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 19:17 last edited by
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                      @Jolly said in Sandmann Loses:

                      People. All lawyers ask for Summary Judgement at the beginning of a civil case. Except in the absolute most cut-and-dried cases, SJ is denied by the judge. This only mean the case proceeds as any civil case might. Picking juries, etc.

                      The way I read it, the judge provided a summary judgment against Sandmann.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • H Horace
                        28 Jul 2022, 19:17

                        @Jolly said in Sandmann Loses:

                        People. All lawyers ask for Summary Judgement at the beginning of a civil case. Except in the absolute most cut-and-dried cases, SJ is denied by the judge. This only mean the case proceeds as any civil case might. Picking juries, etc.

                        The way I read it, the judge provided a summary judgment against Sandmann.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 19:17 last edited by
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                        @Horace said in Sandmann Loses:

                        @Jolly said in Sandmann Loses:

                        People. All lawyers ask for Summary Judgement at the beginning of a civil case. Except in the absolute most cut-and-dried cases, SJ is denied by the judge. This only mean the case proceeds as any civil case might. Picking juries, etc.

                        The way I read it, the judge provided a summary judgment against Sandmann.

                        If so, then the Judge has found he has no standing.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • J Jolly
                          28 Jul 2022, 19:17

                          @Horace said in Sandmann Loses:

                          @Jolly said in Sandmann Loses:

                          People. All lawyers ask for Summary Judgement at the beginning of a civil case. Except in the absolute most cut-and-dried cases, SJ is denied by the judge. This only mean the case proceeds as any civil case might. Picking juries, etc.

                          The way I read it, the judge provided a summary judgment against Sandmann.

                          If so, then the Judge has found he has no standing.

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 19:58 last edited by Aqua Letifer
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                          @Jolly said in Sandmann Loses:

                          @Horace said in Sandmann Loses:

                          @Jolly said in Sandmann Loses:

                          People. All lawyers ask for Summary Judgement at the beginning of a civil case. Except in the absolute most cut-and-dried cases, SJ is denied by the judge. This only mean the case proceeds as any civil case might. Picking juries, etc.

                          The way I read it, the judge provided a summary judgment against Sandmann.

                          If so, then the Judge has found he has no standing.

                          This is bad.

                          I don't see this as about Sandmann at all. If I break into your house and steal your vinyl, then you call the police, and I get prosecuted. If I gin up a mob with lies, get you fired from your job, make you unemployable, and make your home unsafe, that's far worse. Yet nothing happens to me.

                          Legally, we need to do something about doxxing and cancel culture. Apply what we currently have, write new ones, something. Because right now, destroying lives is completely legal. And the more you've accomplished, the bigger a target you make.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 20:03 last edited by
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                            Not much is as revealing of character than the degree to which one takes pleasure in the destruction of whomever they consider 'others'. People can be relied on to self-select in this manner, as long as their peer group doesn't shame them for it.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              kluurs
                              wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 20:16 last edited by
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                              It's helpful when one can prove damages. He's made millions - more than he might have expected to make in a lifetime with normal earnings.

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                              • K kluurs
                                28 Jul 2022, 20:16

                                It's helpful when one can prove damages. He's made millions - more than he might have expected to make in a lifetime with normal earnings.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 20:20 last edited by
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                                @kluurs said in Sandmann Loses:

                                He's made millions

                                More than I used to make in 6-7 months!

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • G George K
                                  28 Jul 2022, 20:20

                                  @kluurs said in Sandmann Loses:

                                  He's made millions

                                  More than I used to make in 6-7 months!

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 21:31 last edited by
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                                  @George-K But less than you've lost in 4 months, right? lol

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    28 Jul 2022, 21:31

                                    @George-K But less than you've lost in 4 months, right? lol

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 28 Jul 2022, 21:41 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in Sandmann Loses:

                                    @George-K But less than you've lost in 4 months, right? lol

                                    Harrumph....

                                    No.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • G George K
                                      28 Jul 2022, 21:41

                                      @jon-nyc said in Sandmann Loses:

                                      @George-K But less than you've lost in 4 months, right? lol

                                      Harrumph....

                                      No.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 29 Jul 2022, 00:44 last edited by
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                                      @George-K said in Sandmann Loses:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Sandmann Loses:

                                      @George-K But less than you've lost in 4 months, right? lol

                                      Harrumph....

                                      No.

                                      I feel your pain, Kimosabe.

                                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        29 Jul 2022, 00:44

                                        @George-K said in Sandmann Loses:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Sandmann Loses:

                                        @George-K But less than you've lost in 4 months, right? lol

                                        Harrumph....

                                        No.

                                        I feel your pain, Kimosabe.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 29 Jul 2022, 00:49 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in Sandmann Loses:

                                        I feel your pain, Kimosabe.

                                        "What do mean 'we', white man?"

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 29 Jul 2022, 01:00 last edited by
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                                          You people need to hew closer to the Horace investment strategy.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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