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Meanwhile, in Atlanta...

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #79

    Yep. When I was growing up cops had all sorts of discretionary ability. That is gone. teachers used to have it too. This is what zero tolerance policies buy us.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • ImprovisoI Offline
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      Improviso
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      #80

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      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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      • RainmanR Offline
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        Rainman
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        #81

        When I was young, I was let off the hook a few times by cops. That included "you're drunk, go home, drive carefully."

        But no one is even mentioning that i.e., the cop for a brief moment is cop, judge, and jury. It's all or nothing, or so it seems, and it's all about cops killing blacks disproportionately, but the data says otherwise, so, it must be thought that if cop would not arrest blacks, the prisons would be emptier, and blacks could thrive in society.

        In other words, things will change, but will remain the same.

        Cops are the scapegoat. It's not going to work, it's going to make things worse.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          #82

          The only people on the BLM side of the issue who wish that guy had gone peacefully with the officer are his loved ones. Everybody else is happy to have another martyr for the cause. You can tell because anybody who was genuinely interested in minimizing these sorts of deaths would be picking the low hanging fruit of reminding people to obey officers and you know, not punch them and taze them and stuff. But of course the expectation that people should follow rules is just another privileged white person thing. We can't go around suggesting that an historically oppressed people follow cops' orders. That would be whitesplaining.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            The only people on the BLM side of the issue who wish that guy had gone peacefully with the officer are his loved ones. Everybody else is happy to have another martyr for the cause. You can tell because anybody who was genuinely interested in minimizing these sorts of deaths would be picking the low hanging fruit of reminding people to obey officers and you know, not punch them and taze them and stuff. But of course the expectation that people should follow rules is just another privileged white person thing. We can't go around suggesting that an historically oppressed people follow cops' orders. That would be whitesplaining.

            RainmanR Offline
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            Rainman
            wrote on last edited by
            #83

            @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

            The only people on the BLM side of the issue who wish that guy had gone peacefully with the officer are his loved ones. Everybody else is happy to have another martyr for the cause. You can tell because anybody who was genuinely interested in minimizing these sorts of deaths would be picking the low hanging fruit of reminding people to obey officers and you know, not punch them and taze them and stuff. But of course the expectation that people should follow rules is just another privileged white person thing. We can't go around suggesting that an historically oppressed people follow cops' orders. That would be whitesplaining.

            Yes, "whitesplaining" is the cop-out. Not the issues in the black family, lack of a father (doesn't matter because males...), and other uncomplimentary facts which should be ignored.

            BTW - Horace had a great post earlier in this thread, as often times he has a unique and thoughtful perspective. I would have clicked the "like" button, if there was one.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              The only people on the BLM side of the issue who wish that guy had gone peacefully with the officer are his loved ones. Everybody else is happy to have another martyr for the cause. You can tell because anybody who was genuinely interested in minimizing these sorts of deaths would be picking the low hanging fruit of reminding people to obey officers and you know, not punch them and taze them and stuff. But of course the expectation that people should follow rules is just another privileged white person thing. We can't go around suggesting that an historically oppressed people follow cops' orders. That would be whitesplaining.

              JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #84

              @Horace said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

              The only people on the BLM side of the issue who wish that guy had gone peacefully with the officer are his loved ones. Everybody else is happy to have another martyr for the cause. You can tell because anybody who was genuinely interested in minimizing these sorts of deaths would be picking the low hanging fruit of reminding people to obey officers and you know, not punch them and taze them and stuff. But of course the expectation that people should follow rules is just another privileged white person thing. We can't go around suggesting that an historically oppressed people follow cops' orders. That would be whitesplaining.

              Damn skippy...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #85

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #86

                  The mayor and DA have overreached, and there is a very real chance this will backfire.

                  1st, I would love to meet the jury that would convict this former officer. I don’t see that happening. I do see him having a hell of a case against them, however.

                  Unfortunately, his life has been destroyed, and it’s going to be a very long time till he and his family have any peace.

                  The Brad

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #87

                    Hopefully, the Blue Flu accelerates and we see things go south in Atlanta or Portland.

                    This is not going to get better until some consequences of under-policing are evident to all.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • CopperC Offline
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                      Copper
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                      #88

                      Yes, the ridiculous nature of this attack on the police should be obvious to everyone.

                      But all of a sudden you can't say anything bad about blm.

                      Somebody has to defend the police.

                      I assume it will be left to Mr. Trump to set things right.

                      Lucky for us, I think he up to the job.

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        The mayor and DA have overreached, and there is a very real chance this will backfire.

                        1st, I would love to meet the jury that would convict this former officer. I don’t see that happening. I do see him having a hell of a case against them, however.

                        Unfortunately, his life has been destroyed, and it’s going to be a very long time till he and his family have any peace.

                        jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #89

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Meanwhile, in Atlanta...:

                        1st, I would love to meet the jury that would convict this former officer. I don’t see that happening. I do see him having a hell of a case against them, however.

                        It All comes down to jury selection.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #90

                          Also LD would probably not love to meet them.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            #91

                            Don't blame us down here, you Yankees turned them loose.......

                            :man-running:

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