Fox News runs digitally altered images in coverage of Seattle’s protests, Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
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I would love a one paragraph summary of what is actually going on there. Are businesses open? Are people allowed to freely enter and leave? I gather a police station has been deserted and that this was due to a credible threat of violence against them. Which is sort of a big deal, but far be it from me to frame the insurrection in such an unfair light.
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@Horace said in Fox News runs digitally altered images in coverage of Seattle’s protests, Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone:
I would love a one paragraph summary of what is actually going on there. Are businesses open? Are people allowed to freely enter and leave? I gather a police station has been deserted and that this was due to a credible threat of violence against them. Which is sort of a big deal, but far be it from me to frame the insurrection in such an unfair light.
I think it doesn’t matter what it looks like today. Let’s see what the denizens and other Seattle residents say over time. It’s their decision ,locally. The rest of the country will be able to judge when we have the real information. Can they self govern, can they respect residents with money who live there, is it safe.
Let them have their Woodstock. As for a summer of love, let’s see if it is sustainable.
We should not be afraid. If it’s good it’s good for all of us.
If we stop it we will be blamed and missed the chance it implodes on itself and the lessons learned.
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@Loki said in Fox News runs digitally altered images in coverage of Seattle’s protests, Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone:
@Horace said in Fox News runs digitally altered images in coverage of Seattle’s protests, Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone:
I would love a one paragraph summary of what is actually going on there. Are businesses open? Are people allowed to freely enter and leave? I gather a police station has been deserted and that this was due to a credible threat of violence against them. Which is sort of a big deal, but far be it from me to frame the insurrection in such an unfair light.
I think it doesn’t matter what it looks like today. Let’s see what the denizens and other Seattle residents say over time. It’s their decision ,locally. The rest of the country will be able to judge when we have the real information. Can they self govern, can they respect residents with money who live there, is it safe.
Let them have their Woodstock. As for a summer of love, let’s see if it is sustainable.
We should not be afraid. If it’s good it’s good for all of us.
If we stop it we will be blamed and missed the chance it implodes on itself and the lessons learned.
I am all for letting it burn out, whatever it is. I don't really believe we can enforce the law there anyway without an important critical mass of pop culture automatons becoming outraged at the abuse of police/military authority. But I disagree that what it looks like right now and for the past several days is irrelevant.
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NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, NYT, WP....every single one of these media outlets run stories on a daily basis for YEARS that are flat out lies, yet you never complain until the only media outlet that has been telling you the truth during those same years runs a couple of pictures that had been altered slightly and your first instinct is to express outrage and ask why anyone believes anything they say...
RIIIIGHTTT.......
Jesus.
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I just spent a couple of minutes watching the action. Crowds, energy, lots of capering around like kids released from school for summer break.
I'm with Loki. That novelty excitement will die down pretty quick. People will start recalling the crap that infiltrated their lives before: Annoying boy/girlfriends, annoying parents, fear of parental punishment when they go back home, job loss (money) worries -- all the boring mundane stuff that they in their initial effervescence were too glad to escape will loom real once again. Especially as the inconveniences encroach more. "Eh, what's a little street gravel" will turn into, "Eww, what's that?"
I don't feel quite as disapproving as some in here, maybe because I still remember these shows from when I was also young and wild. Okay, I was never wild; wildish. I never took part in them myself, but I smoked with 'em, you bet, and I remember the joyful recklessness in their faces.
Feeling kind of nostalgic, actually.
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Upon further ready, perhaps they don’t actually want a summer of love. They have a list of demands so that they may leave. Sorry, but it doesn’t work that way. Get your demands voted in through our democratic process.
Still I say call their bluff, let them live there and don’t put fuel on the fire. Let the fire burn with its own fuel.
Do not negotiate with them. Make clear what the process is and guess what, it’s not theirs.
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I can see that argument and agree with it in some ways, but then I remember that there are businesses trapped inside that area who are at the very least suffering great financial loss.
I think it's time to stop showing them consideration and start considering the people and businesses being affected by their actions, uphold the rule of law, and surround them by armed military and give then one hour to get out and disperse or they'll be shot dead.
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@Larry said in Fox News runs digitally altered images in coverage of Seattle’s protests, Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone:
NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, NYT, WP....every single one of these media outlets run stories on a daily basis for YEARS that are flat out lies, yet you never complain until the only media outlet that has been telling you the truth during those same years runs a couple of pictures that had been altered slightly and your first instinct is to express outrage and ask why anyone believes anything they say...
RIIIIGHTTT.......
Jesus.
If anybody ever had any doubts about the ability of pop culture group-think to turn normal people into abject imbeciles, I don't think those doubts can exist any longer. It's been sad to watch, but nothing I didn't already know.
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@Catseye3 said in Fox News runs digitally altered images in coverage of Seattle’s protests, Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone:
I just spent a couple of minutes watching the action. Crowds, energy, lots of capering around like kids released from school for summer break.
I'm with Loki. That novelty excitement will die down pretty quick. People will start recalling the crap that infiltrated their lives before: Annoying boy/girlfriends, annoying parents, fear of parental punishment when they go back home, job loss (money) worries -- all the boring mundane stuff that they in their initial effervescence were too glad to escape will loom real once again. Especially as the inconveniences encroach more. "Eh, what's a little street gravel" will turn into, "Eww, what's that?"
I don't feel quite as disapproving as some in here, maybe because I still remember these shows from when I was also young and wild. Okay, I was never wild; wildish. I never took part in them myself, but I smoked with 'em, you bet, and I remember the joyful recklessness in their faces.
Feeling kind of nostalgic, actually.
Yes, I think their commitment will wane very shortly and they will miss their own futons. This is a tantrum, and poorly designed at that.
Yes, they are, for all intents and purposes, today's hippies. Even when I rather looked like one I disliked hippies. Naive and loopy, the kind of idiots who were astonished when they were actually arrested for various and sundry illegal things. But I was much more of a street kid anyway.
