Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.

[Doctor Phibes]

There's actually a fair amount of poverty on The Cape - if you visit off season, it's quite surprising how poor some of it is, and there are a lot of drug problems. I guess The Vineyard might be a little different - I've never been.

[Jolly]

Morality?

https://www.frontpagemag.com/the-moral-case-for-ron-desantis-migrant-transports/

[Horace]

@Jolly said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

Morality?

https://www.frontpagemag.com/the-moral-case-for-ron-desantis-migrant-transports/

I didn't read the article, but it is not coherent to speak of the immorality of extra-legal maneuvering such as Desantis', without acknowledging that the point of contention is the lack of enforcement of the laws that do exist. If an official in the government cannot trust that the laws as written will be enforced, and if they believe the lack of enforcement of those laws is immoral, then the morality of these extra-legal machinations is clear.

But it would take an open, non-tribal mind to see that.

[Jolly]

From the article:

Whether it is socialist Cuba, Soviet Russia, Cambodia, or North Korea, as socialism makes its pitiful and failed peregrinations around the world, few who are its advocates will bend to reality and see it is a doomed and catastrophic system that also too often relies on the criminalization of dissent.

It is obvious that Venezuelan voters chose their fate and destiny when they elected Chavez. They must reap the consequences they have sown.

The United States can no longer remain indefinitely the dumping ground and a stable source of benefaction for every failed socio-economic and political experiment of countries and their citizens that know better. They willingly ignore the historical record of failed socialist states. They refuse to admit that in the end reality is the final arbiter, and that there is an objective reality that is independent of their wishes, pleas, and desires.

DeSantis, whether he knows it or not, is taking a moral step to teach a vital lesson to all left-wing countries and their foolish citizens who are guilty of the worst form of political calumny. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. You cannot vote to nationalize and exorbitantly tax the brains and minds of your best citizens—which is what it means to nationalize any private industry—and then scream and flee in terror when your victims withdraw the products of their brain – their capital – and leave you to squander in your own ineptitude.

[Rainman]

...Reality is the final arbiter... (from the article)

Would be a great bumper sticker for here in the magic land of PDX!!

Of course no one would understand that damn German word at the end, seeing as we can only see Russia from our back yards and know words like Dah and Net.

[George K]

[Copper]

Is she drunk, or is that Biden's disease?

I guess it could be both.

[Jolly]

Biden's disease.

[Mik]

The democrats have a long history of supporting slavery.

[Axtremus]

@Mik said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

The democrats have a long history of supporting slavery.

That’s like saying the Christians have a long history of supporting slavery.

[Mik]

Except Christians aren’t still doing it.

[Axtremus]

@Mik said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

Except Christians aren’t still doing it.

Ditto the Democrats.

[Mik]

You just heard Pelosi calling out for the illegals to be there to harvest the Florida crops. That’s modern day slavery.

[Axtremus]

@Mik said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

You just heard Pelosi calling out for the illegals to be there to harvest the Florida crops. That’s modern day slavery.

Next you’re going to tell me “unpaid internship” is modern day slavery too?

And what “illegals”? The immigrants that were flown to Martha’s Vineyard were in Texas with legal status. It’s DeSantis (a Republican) who lured them into a flight and flew them to Massachusetts without their informed consent. DeSantis moving people around without informed consent is a lot more like the old time slave traders shipping slaves around without informed consent.

At least Pelosi does not make the immigrants do work or ship them around against their free will.

[George K]

@Axtremus said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

ship them around against their free will

White Plains, Jacksonville, and other cities would disagree.

[Copper]

@Axtremus said in Democrat mayors don't want illegal migrants in their towns.:

At least Pelosi does not make the immigrants do work or ship them around against their free will.

Have we forgotten about the Napa Valley winery owned by the wealthy Ms. Pelosi?

[Horace]

This thing where some of the immigrants were not technically illegals, and all the feels and indignation it is causing amongst those whose votes for republicans were lost since long before this situation arose, is an interesting study in whether political feels are real. This is an eternal question. Are people feeling genuine outrage, or just outrage for political effect? After you realize that emotions in general are designed to a parroting of the emotions of one's tribe, the answer to that question becomes difficult. There is nothing unreal or untrue about the emotions felt by members of a mob, in the interest of the mob. Any more than emotions felt in service of one's self, are unreal or untrue, even if self interest blinds us to a fair appraisal of the situation, where lots of different interests intersect.

[Copper]

Let's keep in mind that these illegals came here by their own choice.

They were not dragged here by either the US right or left.

Although I guess it is possible that Mr. Biden's gestapo FBI might have gone to Venezuela and encouraged migration.

[Axtremus]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/02/us/migrants-marthas-vineyard-desantis-texas.html

"Perla," the person who did the leg work to lure the immigrants from Texas only DeSantis' flights to Martha Vineyard has been identified.

[George K]

So, where are these people now? Just wondering.