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The darkest days are still ahead of us.

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #1

    Long read. Have a nice summer...

    https://www.bluezones.com/2020/06/covid-19-straight-answers-from-top-epidemiologist-who-predicted-the-pandemic/?fbclid=IwAR23VLFDGGLyXuWB55lY1DRbcIqgqWbBkYkIgFR3JFv71OZTdb6DkxuI_aE

    Here are the highlights of our conversation. But if you really want to understand this disease, read the whole interview. This disease may be the biggest event of our lifetimes.

    3 months ago, COVID-19 was not even in the top 75 causes of death in this country. Much of the last month, it was the #1 cause of death in this country. This is more remarkable than the 1918 Flu pandemic.
    There is no scientific indication Covid-19 will disappear of its own accord.
    If you’re under age 55, obesity is the #1 risk factor. So, eating the right diet, getting physical activity, and managing stress are some of the most important things you can do to protect yourself from the disease.
    One of the best things we can do for our aging parents is to get them out into the fresh air, while maintaining physical (not social) distancing.
    Wearing a cloth mask does not protect you much if you’re in close contact with someone who is COVID-19 contagious. It may give you 10 minutes, instead of five, to avoid contracting the disease.
    We can expect COVID-19 to infect 60% – 70% of Americans. That’s around 200 million Americans.
    We can expect between 800,000 and 1.6 million Americans to die in the next 18 months if we don’t have a successful vaccine.
    There is no guarantee of an effective vaccination and even if we find one, it may only give short term protection.
    Speeding a vaccination into production carries its own risks.
    The darkest days are still ahead of us. We need moral leadership, the command leadership that doesn’t minimize what’s before us but allows everyone to see that we’re going to get through it.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

    jon-nycJ CopperC 2 Replies Last reply
    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #2

      The darkest days are still ahead of us. We need moral leadership, the command leadership that doesn’t minimize what’s before us but allows everyone to see that we’re going to get through it.

      High morals in our leaders will definitely get us through these times. I predict in fact that with leadership of greater moral standing than Donald Trump, the threat of Covid will all but disappear from our public consciousness. If you don't think your vote can solve racism, at least believe that it can solve the pandemic. Get out and VOTE!!

      Education is extremely important.

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        The final death toll is difficult to predict. What we have to make sure of is that it does not collapse our healthcare system and economy.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
          #4

          Funny, I was reading some transcripts from Goldman's biotech conference this week. A CEO of an RNA interference company had this to say:

          If you look at MERS and SARS and now COVID-19, I think all that suggests that we live in a world now where we have to expect every several years some kind of coronavirus outbreak. Now hopefully none of them are going to be as severe as we're seeing right now with COVID-19. But we see that as the future and we wanted to be out in front of that.

          And I think we've got a reasonable chance to create something that could be used across corona viruses. And so we're ready for the next one and the next one after that.

          I love how he's not entirely successful in hiding his excitement at the prospect of periodic coronavirus coming at us like we're in a batting cage (no pun intended). Seriously, I do. It made me laugh.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • George KG George K

            Long read. Have a nice summer...

            https://www.bluezones.com/2020/06/covid-19-straight-answers-from-top-epidemiologist-who-predicted-the-pandemic/?fbclid=IwAR23VLFDGGLyXuWB55lY1DRbcIqgqWbBkYkIgFR3JFv71OZTdb6DkxuI_aE

            Here are the highlights of our conversation. But if you really want to understand this disease, read the whole interview. This disease may be the biggest event of our lifetimes.

            3 months ago, COVID-19 was not even in the top 75 causes of death in this country. Much of the last month, it was the #1 cause of death in this country. This is more remarkable than the 1918 Flu pandemic.
            There is no scientific indication Covid-19 will disappear of its own accord.
            If you’re under age 55, obesity is the #1 risk factor. So, eating the right diet, getting physical activity, and managing stress are some of the most important things you can do to protect yourself from the disease.
            One of the best things we can do for our aging parents is to get them out into the fresh air, while maintaining physical (not social) distancing.
            Wearing a cloth mask does not protect you much if you’re in close contact with someone who is COVID-19 contagious. It may give you 10 minutes, instead of five, to avoid contracting the disease.
            We can expect COVID-19 to infect 60% – 70% of Americans. That’s around 200 million Americans.
            We can expect between 800,000 and 1.6 million Americans to die in the next 18 months if we don’t have a successful vaccine.
            There is no guarantee of an effective vaccination and even if we find one, it may only give short term protection.
            Speeding a vaccination into production carries its own risks.
            The darkest days are still ahead of us. We need moral leadership, the command leadership that doesn’t minimize what’s before us but allows everyone to see that we’re going to get through it.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
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            @George-K said in The darkest days are still ahead of us.:

            There is no scientific indication Covid-19 will disappear of its own accord.
            We can expect COVID-19 to infect 60% – 70% of Americans. That’s around 200 million Americans.
            We can expect between 800,000 and 1.6 million Americans to die in the next 18 months if we don’t have a successful vaccine.

            That's an IFR in the 0.4-0.8 range.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @George-K said in The darkest days are still ahead of us.:

              There is no scientific indication Covid-19 will disappear of its own accord.
              We can expect COVID-19 to infect 60% – 70% of Americans. That’s around 200 million Americans.
              We can expect between 800,000 and 1.6 million Americans to die in the next 18 months if we don’t have a successful vaccine.

              That's an IFR in the 0.4-0.8 range.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              @jon-nyc said in The darkest days are still ahead of us.:

              @George-K said in The darkest days are still ahead of us.:

              There is no scientific indication Covid-19 will disappear of its own accord.
              We can expect COVID-19 to infect 60% – 70% of Americans. That’s around 200 million Americans.
              We can expect between 800,000 and 1.6 million Americans to die in the next 18 months if we don’t have a successful vaccine.

              That's an IFR in the 0.4-0.8 range.

              (too lazy to look it up)

              What is it currently?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

              jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply
              • George KG George K

                Long read. Have a nice summer...

                https://www.bluezones.com/2020/06/covid-19-straight-answers-from-top-epidemiologist-who-predicted-the-pandemic/?fbclid=IwAR23VLFDGGLyXuWB55lY1DRbcIqgqWbBkYkIgFR3JFv71OZTdb6DkxuI_aE

                Here are the highlights of our conversation. But if you really want to understand this disease, read the whole interview. This disease may be the biggest event of our lifetimes.

                3 months ago, COVID-19 was not even in the top 75 causes of death in this country. Much of the last month, it was the #1 cause of death in this country. This is more remarkable than the 1918 Flu pandemic.
                There is no scientific indication Covid-19 will disappear of its own accord.
                If you’re under age 55, obesity is the #1 risk factor. So, eating the right diet, getting physical activity, and managing stress are some of the most important things you can do to protect yourself from the disease.
                One of the best things we can do for our aging parents is to get them out into the fresh air, while maintaining physical (not social) distancing.
                Wearing a cloth mask does not protect you much if you’re in close contact with someone who is COVID-19 contagious. It may give you 10 minutes, instead of five, to avoid contracting the disease.
                We can expect COVID-19 to infect 60% – 70% of Americans. That’s around 200 million Americans.
                We can expect between 800,000 and 1.6 million Americans to die in the next 18 months if we don’t have a successful vaccine.
                There is no guarantee of an effective vaccination and even if we find one, it may only give short term protection.
                Speeding a vaccination into production carries its own risks.
                The darkest days are still ahead of us. We need moral leadership, the command leadership that doesn’t minimize what’s before us but allows everyone to see that we’re going to get through it.

                CopperC Offline
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                Copper
                wrote on last edited by
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                @George-K said in The darkest days are still ahead of us.:

                We need moral leadership

                He was doing ok up to there

                I assume BLM membership is mandatory to make the cure work

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                • CopperC Copper

                  @George-K said in The darkest days are still ahead of us.:

                  We need moral leadership

                  He was doing ok up to there

                  I assume BLM membership is mandatory to make the cure work

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #8

                  @Copper said in The darkest days are still ahead of us.:

                  @George-K said in The darkest days are still ahead of us.:

                  We need moral leadership

                  He was doing ok up to there

                  I almost stopped reading at that point. However, there are good points later in the interview.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @jon-nyc said in The darkest days are still ahead of us.:

                    @George-K said in The darkest days are still ahead of us.:

                    There is no scientific indication Covid-19 will disappear of its own accord.
                    We can expect COVID-19 to infect 60% – 70% of Americans. That’s around 200 million Americans.
                    We can expect between 800,000 and 1.6 million Americans to die in the next 18 months if we don’t have a successful vaccine.

                    That's an IFR in the 0.4-0.8 range.

                    (too lazy to look it up)

                    What is it currently?

                    jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                    #9

                    @George-K said in The darkest days are still ahead of us.:

                    @jon-nyc said in The darkest days are still ahead of us.:

                    @George-K said in The darkest days are still ahead of us.:

                    There is no scientific indication Covid-19 will disappear of its own accord.
                    We can expect COVID-19 to infect 60% – 70% of Americans. That’s around 200 million Americans.
                    We can expect between 800,000 and 1.6 million Americans to die in the next 18 months if we don’t have a successful vaccine.

                    That's an IFR in the 0.4-0.8 range.

                    (too lazy to look it up)

                    What is it currently?

                    It's a topic of dispute, as it's still too early to tell. I think their estimate range is a good one.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      I will continue to consider an IFR which applies to all age groups as very close to meaningless.

                      Education is extremely important.

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