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A document rooted in racism and sexism.

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  • Catseye3C Offline
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    Catseye3
    wrote on last edited by Catseye3
    #3

    U.S. Constitution ‘Racist’ and ‘Sexist,’ Most Democrats Believe, says our poll which we stripped of all but the dumbest people in the country.

    FIFY

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      #4

      I don't think stupidity can be determined before surveying...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Who said anything about before?

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          #6

          That much seems objectively true.

          How would one even make the opposite case?

          Seems the best you could do is to note “it’s also rooted in all these other ideas in it which are more universal etc”.

          But how do you pretend it wasn’t racist and sexist in origin?

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • MikM Away
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            So what? It reflected American society as it existed at that time, including the disagreements over slavery and women's rights. It also established the ability of the people to change as they wished. Its precepts have consistently been interpreted to move us toward greater rights and justice.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              That much seems objectively true.

              How would one even make the opposite case?

              Seems the best you could do is to note “it’s also rooted in all these other ideas in it which are more universal etc”.

              But how do you pretend it wasn’t racist and sexist in origin?

              CopperC Offline
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              Copper
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              #8

              @jon-nyc said in A document rooted in racism and sexism.:

              But how do you pretend it wasn’t racist and sexist in origin?

              Those words had different meaning at the time.

              The practices were acceptable, even admired.

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              • HoraceH Online
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                Horace
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                Maybe we should specify the parts of the document which show the racism or sexism, before we handwave anachronistic value judgments about the document's "roots".

                Education is extremely important.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  #10

                  Notice where the majority thought about racism and sexism occurs...It's primarily among Democrats.

                  Why?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Notice where the majority thought about racism and sexism occurs...It's primarily among Democrats.

                    Why?

                    HoraceH Online
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                    @Jolly said in A document rooted in racism and sexism.:

                    Notice where the majority thought about racism and sexism occurs...It's primarily among Democrats.

                    Why?

                    Because those people have been successfully indoctrinated into the belief that their choice of political tribe demonstrates their higher virtue with regard to things such as racism and sexism. While in fact the real primate evolution reason they've adopted those views is because they are the most socially advantageous ones to express. Real demonstration of virtue requires sacrifice. Parroting politically correct opinions on various forms of bigotry entails zero sacrifice, and only accrues social gain.

                    I suppose I've spent years here on TNCR trying to explain this concept in 1000 different ways.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                      I'm going out on a limb here, but I think it might be the fault of pop culture.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        I'm going out on a limb here, but I think it might be the fault of pop culture.

                        HoraceH Online
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in A document rooted in racism and sexism.:

                        I'm going out on a limb here, but I think it might be the fault of pop culture.

                        Yep.

                        The more aware one is of how humans operate, the more aware one is about the primacy of culture in our thoughts and feels.

                        Education is extremely important.

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