Your money's worth?
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https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/per-pupil-spending-by-state
We ain't getting it down here. Granddaughter attends a parochial school for about $5000 tuition. State spends over $11,000 per public school pupil. Her education is better, piano or singing lessons are included in the tuition and the food is better.
To top it off, we're spending more money per pupil than neighboring states, with worse outcomes.
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If we were open to exposing the fiction that money can buy a good education, the stats establishing so have been available for a very long time. But that’s a third rail truth.
@Horace said in Your money's worth?:
If we were open to exposing the fiction that money can buy a good education, the stats establishing so have been available for a very long time. But that’s a third rail truth.
I don't think it's a complete fiction. The problem is, almost never does the money go to teachers. I'd like to see that as a wacky experiment before I gave up on the idea entirely.
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The problem is we have started to believe our euphemisms “good schools” and “bad schools”, as if it had something to do with the physical plant. What we really mean by those phrases are “collection of good students” and “collection of bad students” (at least in aggregate).
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Speaking of money in education and teacher salaries...
- Get rid of everybody in the Federal Department of Education pertaining to K-12, except for a staff of about ten people. Revoke all Federal mandates.
- Create a set of national standards. Give local school districts complete autonomy on how to reach those standards.
- Any grants given to the states will be in the form of block grants. Those grants may only be used for capital improvements, learning materials, school food programs and teacher salaries. They may not be used for administrative salaries above the level of principal in a local school district.
- Most school boards are administration heavy. Much of that stems from people chasing or overseeing federal mandates and programs. Since most of that will be gone, those positions need to disappear.
- Get the Feds out of the school lunchroom menu. That's a district decision.
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The problem is we have started to believe our euphemisms “good schools” and “bad schools”, as if it had something to do with the physical plant. What we really mean by those phrases are “collection of good students” and “collection of bad students” (at least in aggregate).
@jon-nyc said in Your money's worth?:
The problem is we have started to believe our euphemisms “good schools” and “bad schools”, as if it had something to do with the physical plant. What we really mean by those phrases are “collection of good students” and “collection of bad students” (at least in aggregate).
IOW, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit.
I dunno. We have some horrible school districts.
What I do know is we are throwing gobs of money at some school districts, and not even producing a majority of kids that can read and write at a ninth-grade level.
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Speaking of money in education and teacher salaries...
- Get rid of everybody in the Federal Department of Education pertaining to K-12, except for a staff of about ten people. Revoke all Federal mandates.
- Create a set of national standards. Give local school districts complete autonomy on how to reach those standards.
- Any grants given to the states will be in the form of block grants. Those grants may only be used for capital improvements, learning materials, school food programs and teacher salaries. They may not be used for administrative salaries above the level of principal in a local school district.
- Most school boards are administration heavy. Much of that stems from people chasing or overseeing federal mandates and programs. Since most of that will be gone, those positions need to disappear.
- Get the Feds out of the school lunchroom menu. That's a district decision.
@Jolly said in Your money's worth?:
- Most school boards are administration heavy. Much of that stems from people chasing or overseeing federal mandates and programs. Since most of that will be gone, those positions need to disappear.
When I was in school there was a counselor and a vice principal and a principal. Now there are several counselors and three vice principals. At least one of those VPs are strictly due to mandates. And the counselors re pretty worthless.
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The problem is we have started to believe our euphemisms “good schools” and “bad schools”, as if it had something to do with the physical plant. What we really mean by those phrases are “collection of good students” and “collection of bad students” (at least in aggregate).
@jon-nyc said in Your money's worth?:
The problem is we have started to believe our euphemisms “good schools” and “bad schools”, as if it had something to do with the physical plant. What we really mean by those phrases are “collection of good students” and “collection of bad students” (at least in aggregate).
Lucas’ High School was ranked in the top 20% in the country. A mile away is another public HS ranked in the top 10%. A mile in another direction is a public HS ranking in the bottom third. The three schools almost make a perfect triangle and are a 10 minute drive away from each other. The same district, same budgets, same curriculum, same teacher pool. There’s a lot to your observation.
