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Jolly

Accurate case numbers come from waste water.

You can not report, but you can’t not shit.

Gives you an idea, but not always concrete numbers. How many states report wastewater numbers as Public Health numbers?

jon-nyc

My understanding is the CDC tracks a number of metropolitan areas that numbers in the low hundreds.

Useful for giving a national picture but not useful for telling you the state of (say) Peoria IL, Oceana, CA, or Merritt Island, FL

taiwan_girl

Cases up, but severe sickness and hospital stays are down.

Vaccinations for the win. LOL

Jolly

@taiwan_girl said in About 5%:

Cases up, but severe sickness and hospital stays are down.

Vaccinations for the win. LOL

Maybe. Maybe not.

Got data for mortality on vaxx vs. non-vaxx?

LuFins Dad

@Jolly said in About 5%:

@taiwan_girl said in About 5%:

Cases up, but severe sickness and hospital stays are down.

Vaccinations for the win. LOL

Maybe. Maybe not.

Got data for mortality on vaxx vs. non-vaxx?

And please keep the data within the time that the vaccines were readily available.

Axtremus

@LuFins-Dad said in About 5%:

@Jolly said in About 5%:

@taiwan_girl said in About 5%:

Cases up, but severe sickness and hospital stays are down.

Vaccinations for the win. LOL

Maybe. Maybe not.

Got data for mortality on vaxx vs. non-vaxx?

And please keep the data within the time that the vaccines were readily available.

2022 July 13 report by the state of Washington:
https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

Go to page 8 to see hospitalization rates then death rates, separated by vaccination status.

Jolly

By their own admission, the death rate for people under 65 was so low - vaxxed or not - the data was essentially worthless.

Doctor Phibes

@Jolly said in About 5%:

By their own admission, the death rate for people under 65 was so low - vaxxed or not - the data was essentially worthless.

It's not just death rates. Hospitalization rates are important, and three times higher for the unvaccinated.

Jolly

It's different now, though.

We don't have COVID wards like we did...Around here, they now put them in negative pressure rooms on the regular med floors.

And it seems like we don't see the 40-something with no comorbidities dying with COVID.

So, who needs to be vaccinated? Elderly folks and people with comorbidities. In young people, especially teenage guys, we may be doing more harm than good. I think we need to take a deep breath, realize COVID is endemic, look at the limitations of the vaccines and revaluate when and how often someone needs to be
vaccinated .

Doctor Phibes

@Jolly said in About 5%:

It's different now, though.

We don't have COVID wards like we did...Around here, they now put them in negative pressure rooms on the regular med floors.

And it seems like we don't see the 40-something with no comorbidities dying with COVID.

So, who needs to be vaccinated? Elderly folks and people with comorbidities. In young people, especially teenage guys, we may be doing more harm than good. I think we need to take a deep breath, realize COVID is endemic, look at the limitations of the vaccines and revaluate when and how often someone needs to be
vaccinated .

I'm happy for them to re-evaluate if they do it properly. So many of the decisions associated with this seem to be politically motivated, particularly in the US, which is really unfortunate. The last thing we need is talking heads driving health policy.

The New Coffee Room

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