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  • G George K
    10 Jul 2022, 12:48

    @George-K said in Protest at the Steak House.:

    I really haven't expressed my opinion on the Court's decision, have I?

    Actually, let me rephrase that.

    I think, as a matter of law, the Court's decision is correct. As a video about it I posted earlier explains, if not enumerated in the Constitution, "rights" are such only in the context of other rights (free speech, eg) and in the context of historical precedent.

    So, to rephrase, I haven't expressed my opinion on abortion - and I won't.

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 10 Jul 2022, 18:54 last edited by
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    @George-K said in Protest at the Steak House.:

    So, to rephrase, I haven't expressed my opinion on abortion - and I won't.

    Any particular reason? Just curious. My shorthand is, "I'm not necessarily against it," but for me there's a lot more to it.

    Please love yourself.

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    • J jon-nyc
      10 Jul 2022, 18:11

      He might do it, remember he has financial issues

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      Jolly
      wrote on 10 Jul 2022, 20:43 last edited by
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      @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

      He might do it, remember he has financial issues

      In Washington?

      What's the matter with him, is he honest?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        George K
        wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 00:57 last edited by
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        Mayor Secretary Pete Secretary Pete's husband: You should expect this stuff.

        Two days after Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh fled abortion rights protesters at a Morton’s steakhouse in D.C., Chasten Buttigieg — husband of Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg — tweeted his assessment of the incident.

        “Sounds like he just wanted some privacy to make his own dining decisions,” Chasten Buttigieg wrote, alluding to Kavanaugh’s recent vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, the 1973 court decision that had guaranteed abortion access on the basis of Americans’ right to privacy.

        The tweet drew criticism from some conservatives, including former Trump adviser Stephen Miller, who decried what he called an endorsement of “the use of mob intimidation tactics” as “wildly irresponsible.” But Pete Buttigieg defended his husband’s remarks during a Sunday interview with Fox News’s Mike Emanuel.

        “Any public figure should always, always be free from violence, intimidation and harassment but should never be free from criticism or people exercising their First Amendment rights,” Buttigieg said in a “Fox News Sunday” appearance.

        He added that officials “should expect” public protests — especially after “an important right that the majority of Americans support was taken away.”

        “As long as I’ve been alive, settled case law in the United States has been that the Constitution protected the right to privacy,” Buttigieg said. “And that has now been thrown out the window by justices, including Justice Kavanaugh, who as I recall swore up and down in front of God and everyone, including the United States Congress, that they were going to leave settled case law alone.”

        After a draft of the opinion to overturn Roe leaked in May, some abortion rights supporters began protesting outside of conservative justices’ homes. With frustration mounting over abortion restrictions at the state level, advocacy groups like ShutDownDC have called for more public displays of dissatisfaction — offering service industry workers up to $250 for sightings of the justices who voted to overturn Roe.

        This is just amazing....

        First of all, who cares what the husband of a cabinet secretary says? Can anyone here name the spouse of any other cabinet secretary? C'mon, raise your hand!

        Didn't think so.

        What the actual hell does "make his own dining decisions" mean? Does it mean that he had to decide lamb, veal or beef? C'mon WaPo. We want to know, because you know where democracy dies, and it ain't in bernaise sauce.

        Oh, "should expect." Tell me that's not an incitement to intimidate.

        "Should be free of ... intimidation." Yeah, particularly when you're eating dinner at Mortons.

        You're an asshole, Mr. Spouse of the Former Mayor of South Bend.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • J Jolly
          10 Jul 2022, 20:43

          @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

          He might do it, remember he has financial issues

          In Washington?

          What's the matter with him, is he honest?

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 08:50 last edited by jon-nyc 7 Dec 2022, 09:10
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          @Jolly said in Protest at the Steak House.:

          @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

          He might do it, remember he has financial issues

          In Washington?

          What's the matter with him, is he honest?

          Unclear. 200k in credit card debt and 92k in country club dues managed to get paid off in 2017 …. somehow.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • J jon-nyc
            12 Jul 2022, 08:50

            @Jolly said in Protest at the Steak House.:

            @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

            He might do it, remember he has financial issues

            In Washington?

            What's the matter with him, is he honest?

            Unclear. 200k in credit card debt and 92k in country club dues managed to get paid off in 2017 …. somehow.

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            Catseye3
            wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 11:11 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc

            Oy. How do you know this, Jon? Is there a source for public disclosure for candidates? Is $200K one of those numbers that looks worse than it is for a man in his income class, what with mortgages and so on?

            Did we have this information during his confirmation hearing?

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 15:43 last edited by
              #58

              Yes it was on disclosure forms when he was a circuit court judge. To be fair, 200k was the upper bound, the lower bound of the debt was 90k. So somewhere between the two.

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                Horace
                wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 16:02 last edited by
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                I heard he made a profitable bet on cattle futures.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 16:24 last edited by
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                  That's a substantial steak in a new venture.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • H Horace
                    12 Jul 2022, 16:02

                    I heard he made a profitable bet on cattle futures.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 18:54 last edited by
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                    @Horace said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                    I heard he made a profitable bet on cattle futures.

                    Sounds like a load of bull to me.

                    I was only joking

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      12 Jul 2022, 08:50

                      @Jolly said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                      @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                      He might do it, remember he has financial issues

                      In Washington?

                      What's the matter with him, is he honest?

                      Unclear. 200k in credit card debt and 92k in country club dues managed to get paid off in 2017 …. somehow.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 19:22 last edited by Mik 7 Dec 2022, 19:29
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                      @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                      @Jolly said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                      @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                      He might do it, remember he has financial issues

                      In Washington?

                      What's the matter with him, is he honest?

                      Unclear. 200k in credit card debt and 92k in country club dues managed to get paid off in 2017 …. somehow.

                      In 2017 his salary as a circuit court judge was $217,600. The credit cards mentioned could have been as low as $52K in total according to his disclosure forms.

                      His wife was town manager of Chevy Chase, bringing in a low 6 figure salary. She's a financial manager.

                      Both of them are of an age where inheritances would not be unusual. If the FBI didn't find anything, Mother Jones is unlikely to.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 19:22 last edited by
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                        Wasn't he also moonlighting as a prof at that time?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 19:28 last edited by
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                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-piled-up-credit-card-debt-by-purchasing-nationals-tickets-white-house-says/2018/07/11/8e3ad7d6-8460-11e8-9e80-403a221946a7_story.html

                          The Brad

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 20:47 last edited by jon-nyc 7 Dec 2022, 20:49
                            #65

                            Yep, spokesman said he spent scores of thousands on Nats tickets, carried the debt at credit card interest rates, and then one year his friends all paid him back!

                            That’s pretty normal, right? That’s how my buddies and I do these things.

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 20:54 last edited by
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                              Typical rabid pro lifer.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 21:12 last edited by
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                                Interesting that Kavanaugh plead the fifth never commented. Only the Trump Whitehouse did.

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 21:49 last edited by
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                                  And...Why is this important?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 22:00 last edited by
                                    #69

                                    You brought up his ‘honesty’, you tell us.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 12 Jul 2022, 22:02 last edited by
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                                      It was a response to a comment.

                                      Gee, who made that comment?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 10:52 last edited by
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                                        You thought his “honesty” was relevant when it could be assumed, but when the evidence is a bit ambiguous suddenly your attitude is “why does this matter?”

                                        That’s on you, man.

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 13 Jul 2022, 11:51 last edited by Jolly
                                          #72

                                          Nope.

                                          I figure that somebody paid his debt off, as they aligned him for bigger things. It's Washington, it's politics and it's money. That kind of stuff is ubiquitous.

                                          Now, is it dishonest or unethical?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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