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  • George KG George K

    @taiwan_girl said in Protest at the Steak House.:

    @George-K and I may disagree with the Supreme Court decision, we should respect it.

    I really haven't expressed my opinion on the Court's decision, have I?

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    George K
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    @George-K said in Protest at the Steak House.:

    I really haven't expressed my opinion on the Court's decision, have I?

    Actually, let me rephrase that.

    I think, as a matter of law, the Court's decision is correct. As a video about it I posted earlier explains, if not enumerated in the Constitution, "rights" are such only in the context of other rights (free speech, eg) and in the context of historical precedent.

    So, to rephrase, I haven't expressed my opinion on abortion - and I won't.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Horace
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      The social discussion is entirely about abortion and not about the legal theory. All the way down to the imputed motivations of the justices, that's the discussion. The justices who overturned Roe are rabid pro-lifers, just ask all the breathless high status intellectuals engaging in public discussion on this topic. I mean literally breathless sometimes, you should hear Ezra Klein and his discussion partners on the subject. Ezra is legit terrified. I'll go through my life without being as scared of politicians and political movements as these people are, as a matter of course in their lives. On some level I think they enjoy it. They get to be part of the dominant, winning culture, while play-acting as if they live lives of courageous defiance in the face of oppressive evil encroaching from every side. Jon Stewart sounds exactly like that, too.

      Education is extremely important.

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        George K
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        #49

        Nice.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          Nice.

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          LuFins Dad
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          #50

          @George-K said in Protest at the Steak House.:

          Nice.

          Kavanaugh should totally call in 4 times a day

          “I’m at The Capitol Grill, please Venmo $250”

          “I’m at the dentist office, address ———————-, here’s my Venmo…”

          Four times a day would pay for 2 more armed body guards and he could still pocket an additional $100K per year…

          The Brad

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            jon-nyc
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            #51

            He might do it, remember he has financial issues

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              He might do it, remember he has financial issues

              Catseye3C Offline
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              Catseye3
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              @jon-nyc Beer tastes on a beer budget.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • George KG George K

                @George-K said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                I really haven't expressed my opinion on the Court's decision, have I?

                Actually, let me rephrase that.

                I think, as a matter of law, the Court's decision is correct. As a video about it I posted earlier explains, if not enumerated in the Constitution, "rights" are such only in the context of other rights (free speech, eg) and in the context of historical precedent.

                So, to rephrase, I haven't expressed my opinion on abortion - and I won't.

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #53

                @George-K said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                So, to rephrase, I haven't expressed my opinion on abortion - and I won't.

                Any particular reason? Just curious. My shorthand is, "I'm not necessarily against it," but for me there's a lot more to it.

                Please love yourself.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  He might do it, remember he has financial issues

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                  Jolly
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                  #54

                  @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                  He might do it, remember he has financial issues

                  In Washington?

                  What's the matter with him, is he honest?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    George K
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                    Mayor Secretary Pete Secretary Pete's husband: You should expect this stuff.

                    Two days after Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh fled abortion rights protesters at a Morton’s steakhouse in D.C., Chasten Buttigieg — husband of Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg — tweeted his assessment of the incident.

                    “Sounds like he just wanted some privacy to make his own dining decisions,” Chasten Buttigieg wrote, alluding to Kavanaugh’s recent vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, the 1973 court decision that had guaranteed abortion access on the basis of Americans’ right to privacy.

                    The tweet drew criticism from some conservatives, including former Trump adviser Stephen Miller, who decried what he called an endorsement of “the use of mob intimidation tactics” as “wildly irresponsible.” But Pete Buttigieg defended his husband’s remarks during a Sunday interview with Fox News’s Mike Emanuel.

                    “Any public figure should always, always be free from violence, intimidation and harassment but should never be free from criticism or people exercising their First Amendment rights,” Buttigieg said in a “Fox News Sunday” appearance.

                    He added that officials “should expect” public protests — especially after “an important right that the majority of Americans support was taken away.”

                    “As long as I’ve been alive, settled case law in the United States has been that the Constitution protected the right to privacy,” Buttigieg said. “And that has now been thrown out the window by justices, including Justice Kavanaugh, who as I recall swore up and down in front of God and everyone, including the United States Congress, that they were going to leave settled case law alone.”

                    After a draft of the opinion to overturn Roe leaked in May, some abortion rights supporters began protesting outside of conservative justices’ homes. With frustration mounting over abortion restrictions at the state level, advocacy groups like ShutDownDC have called for more public displays of dissatisfaction — offering service industry workers up to $250 for sightings of the justices who voted to overturn Roe.

                    This is just amazing....

                    First of all, who cares what the husband of a cabinet secretary says? Can anyone here name the spouse of any other cabinet secretary? C'mon, raise your hand!

                    Didn't think so.

                    What the actual hell does "make his own dining decisions" mean? Does it mean that he had to decide lamb, veal or beef? C'mon WaPo. We want to know, because you know where democracy dies, and it ain't in bernaise sauce.

                    Oh, "should expect." Tell me that's not an incitement to intimidate.

                    "Should be free of ... intimidation." Yeah, particularly when you're eating dinner at Mortons.

                    You're an asshole, Mr. Spouse of the Former Mayor of South Bend.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                      He might do it, remember he has financial issues

                      In Washington?

                      What's the matter with him, is he honest?

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                      #56

                      @Jolly said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                      @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                      He might do it, remember he has financial issues

                      In Washington?

                      What's the matter with him, is he honest?

                      Unclear. 200k in credit card debt and 92k in country club dues managed to get paid off in 2017 …. somehow.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Jolly said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                        @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                        He might do it, remember he has financial issues

                        In Washington?

                        What's the matter with him, is he honest?

                        Unclear. 200k in credit card debt and 92k in country club dues managed to get paid off in 2017 …. somehow.

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                        Catseye3
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                        #57

                        @jon-nyc

                        Oy. How do you know this, Jon? Is there a source for public disclosure for candidates? Is $200K one of those numbers that looks worse than it is for a man in his income class, what with mortgages and so on?

                        Did we have this information during his confirmation hearing?

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #58

                          Yes it was on disclosure forms when he was a circuit court judge. To be fair, 200k was the upper bound, the lower bound of the debt was 90k. So somewhere between the two.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            Horace
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                            #59

                            I heard he made a profitable bet on cattle futures.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Jolly
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                              That's a substantial steak in a new venture.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                I heard he made a profitable bet on cattle futures.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                @Horace said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                I heard he made a profitable bet on cattle futures.

                                Sounds like a load of bull to me.

                                I was only joking

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @Jolly said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                  He might do it, remember he has financial issues

                                  In Washington?

                                  What's the matter with him, is he honest?

                                  Unclear. 200k in credit card debt and 92k in country club dues managed to get paid off in 2017 …. somehow.

                                  MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by Mik
                                  #62

                                  @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                  @Jolly said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Protest at the Steak House.:

                                  He might do it, remember he has financial issues

                                  In Washington?

                                  What's the matter with him, is he honest?

                                  Unclear. 200k in credit card debt and 92k in country club dues managed to get paid off in 2017 …. somehow.

                                  In 2017 his salary as a circuit court judge was $217,600. The credit cards mentioned could have been as low as $52K in total according to his disclosure forms.

                                  His wife was town manager of Chevy Chase, bringing in a low 6 figure salary. She's a financial manager.

                                  Both of them are of an age where inheritances would not be unusual. If the FBI didn't find anything, Mother Jones is unlikely to.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Jolly
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                                    #63

                                    Wasn't he also moonlighting as a prof at that time?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      LuFins Dad
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                                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-piled-up-credit-card-debt-by-purchasing-nationals-tickets-white-house-says/2018/07/11/8e3ad7d6-8460-11e8-9e80-403a221946a7_story.html

                                      The Brad

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #65

                                        Yep, spokesman said he spent scores of thousands on Nats tickets, carried the debt at credit card interest rates, and then one year his friends all paid him back!

                                        That’s pretty normal, right? That’s how my buddies and I do these things.

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          Horace
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                                          Typical rabid pro lifer.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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