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I think we all know what causes one county's rate to be higher than another.
Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates.
Misinformation is to blame
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We've been talking about this for two years.
As @Doctor-Phibes has said, mandates don't necessarily conform with compliance. Presumably because of differences in populations, etc.
However, here are two counties, very similar in population and "philosophy", and there doesn't seem to be a difference.
The
womanwimminmenstruating person on the right had the right idea 104 years ago.But wait, what do I know. I'm no biologist.
But wait, I actually am. That's what my undergrad degree is in, so w1nn4r!
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I met with a bunch of people from our global offices last week for an informal dinner - I had drinks with people from Japan, India, the UK, Germany, Singapore and Ireland. We were supposed to meet with folks from China, but they couldn't travel due to restrictions.
The different ways in which the various countries dealt with Covid, and the way in which the population conformed to the requirements was notable.
Did the various approaches make any difference, or will they do in the long-run?
I'm honestly not sure. It seemed to me that the countries that accepted masking more readily, also had a tendency to follow guidelines and rules more rigorously across the board.
It's not just masks, it's culture. And the willingness to wear a mask tends to indicate a willingness to put up with other stuff, too. The mask is more of a symptom than a root cause.
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I met with a bunch of people from our global offices last week for an informal dinner - I had drinks with people from Japan, India, the UK, Germany, Singapore and Ireland. We were supposed to meet with folks from China, but they couldn't travel due to restrictions.
The different ways in which the various countries dealt with Covid, and the way in which the population conformed to the requirements was notable.
Did the various approaches make any difference, or will they do in the long-run?
I'm honestly not sure. It seemed to me that the countries that accepted masking more readily, also had a tendency to follow guidelines and rules more rigorously across the board.
It's not just masks, it's culture. And the willingness to wear a mask tends to indicate a willingness to put up with other stuff, too. The mask is more of a symptom than a root cause.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Data Sez...:
It seemed to me that the countries that accepted masking more readily, also had a tendency to follow guidelines and rules more rigorously across the board.
It's not just masks, it's culture. And the willingness to wear a mask tends to indicate a willingness to put up with other stuff, too. The mask is more of a symptom than a root cause.Well put.
The point in my response to @Jolly is that two geographically-close, culturally-identical societies had very similar results, regardless of mandates.
One can compare South Dakota and Oregon and draw whatever conclusions one wants. They are as dissimilar as the great plains and the Pacific coast, geographically, philosophically, and from and ideological standpoint.
@jolly's article seems to discount those differences.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Data Sez...:
It seemed to me that the countries that accepted masking more readily, also had a tendency to follow guidelines and rules more rigorously across the board.
It's not just masks, it's culture. And the willingness to wear a mask tends to indicate a willingness to put up with other stuff, too. The mask is more of a symptom than a root cause.Well put.
The point in my response to @Jolly is that two geographically-close, culturally-identical societies had very similar results, regardless of mandates.
One can compare South Dakota and Oregon and draw whatever conclusions one wants. They are as dissimilar as the great plains and the Pacific coast, geographically, philosophically, and from and ideological standpoint.
@jolly's article seems to discount those differences.
The Indian guy told me they totally banned the sale of alcohol during the lockdown.
Imagine trying that in the US or UK
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Data Sez...:
It seemed to me that the countries that accepted masking more readily, also had a tendency to follow guidelines and rules more rigorously across the board.
It's not just masks, it's culture. And the willingness to wear a mask tends to indicate a willingness to put up with other stuff, too. The mask is more of a symptom than a root cause.Well put.
The point in my response to @Jolly is that two geographically-close, culturally-identical societies had very similar results, regardless of mandates.
One can compare South Dakota and Oregon and draw whatever conclusions one wants. They are as dissimilar as the great plains and the Pacific coast, geographically, philosophically, and from and ideological standpoint.
@jolly's article seems to discount those differences.
@George-K said in Data Sez...:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Data Sez...:
It seemed to me that the countries that accepted masking more readily, also had a tendency to follow guidelines and rules more rigorously across the board.
It's not just masks, it's culture. And the willingness to wear a mask tends to indicate a willingness to put up with other stuff, too. The mask is more of a symptom than a root cause.Well put.
The point in my response to @Jolly is that two geographically-close, culturally-identical societies had very similar results, regardless of mandates.
One can compare South Dakota and Oregon and draw whatever conclusions one wants. They are as dissimilar as the great plains and the Pacific coast, geographically, philosophically, and from and ideological standpoint.
@jolly's article seems to discount those differences.
It's not like 50% more compliance would theoretically result in 50% fewer cases. All it takes is a very few number of "patriots" to completely negate the work everyone else puts in.
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@George-K said in Data Sez...:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Data Sez...:
It seemed to me that the countries that accepted masking more readily, also had a tendency to follow guidelines and rules more rigorously across the board.
It's not just masks, it's culture. And the willingness to wear a mask tends to indicate a willingness to put up with other stuff, too. The mask is more of a symptom than a root cause.Well put.
The point in my response to @Jolly is that two geographically-close, culturally-identical societies had very similar results, regardless of mandates.
One can compare South Dakota and Oregon and draw whatever conclusions one wants. They are as dissimilar as the great plains and the Pacific coast, geographically, philosophically, and from and ideological standpoint.
@jolly's article seems to discount those differences.
It's not like 50% more compliance would theoretically result in 50% fewer cases. All it takes is a very few number of "patriots" to completely negate the work everyone else puts in.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Data Sez...:
All it takes is a very few number of "patriots" to completely negate the work everyone else puts in.
You're probably right. My point is that the number of "patriots" is probably similar across the counties in @jolly 's article.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Data Sez...:
It seemed to me that the countries that accepted masking more readily, also had a tendency to follow guidelines and rules more rigorously across the board.
It's not just masks, it's culture. And the willingness to wear a mask tends to indicate a willingness to put up with other stuff, too. The mask is more of a symptom than a root cause.Well put.
The point in my response to @Jolly is that two geographically-close, culturally-identical societies had very similar results, regardless of mandates.
One can compare South Dakota and Oregon and draw whatever conclusions one wants. They are as dissimilar as the great plains and the Pacific coast, geographically, philosophically, and from and ideological standpoint.
@jolly's article seems to discount those differences.
@George-K said in Data Sez...:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Data Sez...:
It seemed to me that the countries that accepted masking more readily, also had a tendency to follow guidelines and rules more rigorously across the board.
It's not just masks, it's culture. And the willingness to wear a mask tends to indicate a willingness to put up with other stuff, too. The mask is more of a symptom than a root cause.Well put.
The point in my response to @Jolly is that two geographically-close, culturally-identical societies had very similar results, regardless of mandates.
One can compare South Dakota and Oregon and draw whatever conclusions one wants. They are as dissimilar as the great plains and the Pacific coast, geographically, philosophically, and from and ideological standpoint.
@jolly's article seems to discount those differences.
Thailand until recently (I think 01 June) had a mask mandate both indoor and outdoor. (75+ dewpoint 24 hours a day :eek ) I would say probably 95% of the people followed it. Even after the stopping of the outdoor mask mandate (indoor still in place), that number has not changed much.
