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Inflation's not so bad..

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    xenon
    wrote on 23 Jun 2022, 17:30 last edited by
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    I heard a vox conversations podcast yesterday that ended on the idea that inflation is good for workers (i.e., uber drivers are getting paid more now), and people who pay higher prices are justified in feeling annoyed - but should feel happy that low-income wages are going up.

    Really weird argument.

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      Mik
      wrote on 23 Jun 2022, 17:40 last edited by
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      What good will rising low income wages do if it's just eaten by rising prices?

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Jolly
        wrote on 23 Jun 2022, 18:18 last edited by
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        Lipstick on a pig...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          23 Jun 2022, 17:40

          What good will rising low income wages do if it's just eaten by rising prices?

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 24 Jun 2022, 06:57 last edited by
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          @Mik said in Inflation's not so bad..:

          What good will rising low income wages do if it's just eaten by rising prices?

          Exactly!!! Seems pretty obvious. If you are making 5% more but paying 10% more for things.........

          Well, you do the math. LOL

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          • X xenon
            23 Jun 2022, 17:30

            I heard a vox conversations podcast yesterday that ended on the idea that inflation is good for workers (i.e., uber drivers are getting paid more now), and people who pay higher prices are justified in feeling annoyed - but should feel happy that low-income wages are going up.

            Really weird argument.

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            Horace
            wrote on 25 Jun 2022, 12:55 last edited by
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            @xenon said in Inflation's not so bad..:

            I heard a vox conversations podcast yesterday that ended on the idea that inflation is good for workers (i.e., uber drivers are getting paid more now), and people who pay higher prices are justified in feeling annoyed - but should feel happy that low-income wages are going up.

            Really weird argument.

            Ezra and Matt Y are the only sane people at Vox. But Ezra will always bend over backwards to accommodate the insane. Because it’s the inclusive thing to do. You should hear the Vox economic literati when they discuss how the stock market only matters to the top 10%. They don’t personally know anybody who owns stocks, you see.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • T taiwan_girl
              24 Jun 2022, 06:57

              @Mik said in Inflation's not so bad..:

              What good will rising low income wages do if it's just eaten by rising prices?

              Exactly!!! Seems pretty obvious. If you are making 5% more but paying 10% more for things.........

              Well, you do the math. LOL

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              Horace
              wrote on 25 Jun 2022, 12:57 last edited by Horace
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              @taiwan_girl said in Inflation's not so bad..:

              @Mik said in Inflation's not so bad..:

              What good will rising low income wages do if it's just eaten by rising prices?

              Exactly!!! Seems pretty obvious. If you are making 5% more but paying 10% more for things.........

              Well, you do the math. LOL

              Actually that math only really works if you spend everything you make. If you have a margin of saving power then inflation that includes salary could still work to your favor. But people generally do spend everything they make, so your point mostly holds.

              Education is extremely important.

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                George K
                wrote on 13 Sept 2022, 13:54 last edited by
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                Jan. 2021: 1.4%
                Feb: 1.7%
                Mar: 2.6%
                April: 4.2%
                May: 5.0%
                June: 5.4%
                July: 5.4%
                Aug. 5.3%
                Sept: 5.4%
                Oct. 6.2%
                Nov: 6.8%
                Dec: 7.0%
                Jan. 2022: 7.5%
                Feb: 7.9%
                Mar: 8.5%
                April: 8.3%
                May: 8.6%
                June: 9.1%
                July: 8.5%
                Aug: 8.3%

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 13 Sept 2022, 14:13 last edited by
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                  "Unexpectedly"

                  U.S. consumer prices unexpectedly rose in August and underlying inflation picked up amid rising costs for rents and healthcare, giving the Federal Reserve ammunition to deliver a third 75 basis points interest rate hike next Wednesday.

                  The surprisingly firm inflation readings reported by the Labor Department on Tuesday followed in the wake of recent data showing labor market resilience. The reports suggested that inflation could remain elevated for some time. Fed Chair Jerome Powell reiterated last week that the central bank was "strongly committed" to fighting inflation.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 13 Sept 2022, 14:43 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                    We had a meeting with a number of big European customers last week, and the consensus from their management was that overall the US is likely to do a lot better than they will.

                    Spin that how you will, but there are worse places to be right now.

                    The day my brother finally wired my share of my mother's savings over a week or so ago was graced with the headline "Pound at lowest level against the USD since 1985". How I laughed.

                    I was only joking

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 13 Sept 2022, 16:01 last edited by
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                      Inflation is killing the market today.

                      Which is killing those IRA accounts invested in the market.

                      Mr. Biden has wiped out many years of savings today.

                      Maybe the market will go up again someday.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 13 Sept 2022, 16:06 last edited by
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                        Well, duh...

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/inflation-report-dampens-biden-s-attempts-to-celebrate-the-economy/ar-AA11LV4J?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=909f97ed383849ccb6017048819c27d5

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • CopperC Copper
                          13 Sept 2022, 16:01

                          Inflation is killing the market today.

                          Which is killing those IRA accounts invested in the market.

                          Mr. Biden has wiped out many years of savings today.

                          Maybe the market will go up again someday.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 13 Sept 2022, 19:45 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                          #14

                          @Copper said in Inflation's not so bad..:

                          Inflation is killing the market today.

                          Which is killing those IRA accounts invested in the market.

                          Mr. Biden has wiped out many years of savings today.

                          Maybe the market will go up again someday.

                          Calm down, it can always get worse!

                          I was only joking

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 13 Sept 2022, 19:49 last edited by
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                            Today is absolute market carnage.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • H Horace
                              13 Sept 2022, 19:49

                              Today is absolute market carnage.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 13 Sept 2022, 20:07 last edited by
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                              @Horace said in Inflation's not so bad..:

                              Today is absolute market carnage.

                              Yup…So what should I buy right now?

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                                13 Sept 2022, 20:07

                                @Horace said in Inflation's not so bad..:

                                Today is absolute market carnage.

                                Yup…So what should I buy right now?

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 13 Sept 2022, 20:18 last edited by
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                                @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation's not so bad..:

                                @Horace said in Inflation's not so bad..:

                                Today is absolute market carnage.

                                Yup…So what should I buy right now?

                                Dunno. This market is scary. Not low enough for confident buys though IMO.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 13 Sept 2022, 20:49 last edited by
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                                  Not long ago, Fed Chair J. Powell told everyone to expect “pain” in inflation fight. Then just yesterday, some JP Morgan released an analyst host says “soft landing” looks more likely than recession, and that got rather widely publicized. Boy, that JP Morgan analyst must feel so silly today.

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                                    13 Sept 2022, 20:07

                                    @Horace said in Inflation's not so bad..:

                                    Today is absolute market carnage.

                                    Yup…So what should I buy right now?

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 13 Sept 2022, 22:08 last edited by
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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation's not so bad..:

                                    @Horace said in Inflation's not so bad..:

                                    Today is absolute market carnage.

                                    Yup…So what should I buy right now?

                                    Whisky?

                                    I was only joking

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 13 Sept 2022, 22:30 last edited by
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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 13 Sept 2022, 23:13 last edited by
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                                        TBH, I don't understand - why exactly was it called The Inflation Reduction Act?

                                        I was only joking

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 13 Sept 2022, 23:23 last edited by
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                                          I'm reconsidering my position not to vote for Trump in 2024.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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