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Okay I can't deny that this completely works

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  • kluursK kluurs

    I don't use tea bags. I used to drink green tea by the gallon but at home, I find myself drinking less of it. I don't use boiling water but a slightly lower temperature and brew approximately 2 minutes. I use a fair amount of tea for that 12 oz of tea. They have a scoop that is larger than a teaspoon and I use 3 heaping scoops of tea. I tried the Aqua method - and felt the tea lacked flavor. It may be that you've found a useful brewing method for your particular tea. Once one finds a favorite tea, it is challenging to move away from it.

    Actually, one of my favorite teas comes from a local Chinese restaurant. I've wanted to talk to them about how they make tea as it tastes divine. They use a proprietary mixture of teas.

    Phibes, milk in tea? Gahh! What a horrendous concept. And yes, they do serve tea at Starbucks - but they have no idea WTF they're doing.

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    Aqua Letifer
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    @kluurs said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

    It may be that you've found a useful brewing method for your particular tea.

    Internet research indicates that this is correct. And we're going to rely on the internet here because I don't know what I'm doing.

    I also don't know a damn thing about tea-tasting. But the above method led to a ton more flavor, not less, and it didn't taste like bitter yard clippings. I'm gonna try black tea next and see if I can find the optimal brewing time.

    Please love yourself.

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      Axtremus
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      You’re all wrong. The right way to drink tea is with bubble.

      If you want to be a bit unorthodox you can substitute with grass jelly, but that’s about it.

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        Doctor Phibes
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        #52

        I will concede that you shouldn't boil the water for green tea. Where I come from if you drink green tea, well...let's just say it's not considered socially acceptable. Much like reading poetry in the park.

        I normally don't like it, but I have to admit I was given some by a Japanese customer that was absolutely fantastic. I got the distinct impression that the stuff we get over here is crap, and they knew as much. Much like all the widely available black tea, almost all of which is absolutely shocking. Due to Covid shortages, I was recently supplied with a box of Red Rose tea as a replacement for what I asked for. Ghastly stuff.

        I was only joking

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          #53

          An argument about how to brew it really teas me off.

          Jeez Louise.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            mark
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            #54

            Earl Grey, Hot. Boil that water!

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            Tried it with milk and with honey, and with milk and honey.

            I can drink it plain or with any combo of the above. I prefer plain or with just a touch of milk.

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              wrote on last edited by mark
              #55

              @mark said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

              I can drink it plain or with any combo of the above. I prefer plain or with just a touch of milk."

              TMI, Mark. TMI. 🤤

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                @mark said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                I can drink it plain or with any combo of the above. I prefer plain or with just a touch of milk."

                TMI, Mark. TMI. 🤤

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                @Catseye3 LMAO! I didn't see the typo.

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                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                  @mark said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                  I can drink it plain or with any combo of the above. I prefer plain or with just a touch of milk."

                  TMI, Mark. TMI. 🤤

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                  mark
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                  @Catseye3
                  And I accidentally edited your post. lol

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    I will concede that you shouldn't boil the water for green tea. Where I come from if you drink green tea, well...let's just say it's not considered socially acceptable. Much like reading poetry in the park.

                    I normally don't like it, but I have to admit I was given some by a Japanese customer that was absolutely fantastic. I got the distinct impression that the stuff we get over here is crap, and they knew as much. Much like all the widely available black tea, almost all of which is absolutely shocking. Due to Covid shortages, I was recently supplied with a box of Red Rose tea as a replacement for what I asked for. Ghastly stuff.

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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                    I will concede that you shouldn't boil the water for green tea. Where I come from if you drink green tea, well...let's just say it's not considered socially acceptable. Much like reading poetry in the park.

                    I normally don't like it, but I have to admit I was given some by a Japanese customer that was absolutely fantastic.

                    If we're going to zero in on green tea, my absolute favorite to date is the green powdery stuff from Ginkaku-ji, the name of which translates to something like "ten thousand year jadeite". It was over a decade ago when I first tasted it while visiting Ginkaku-ji. Loved it so much that I bought a tin to take home with me. Finished it in a few months. Haven't been able to find any other green matcha that comes close.

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                    • MikM Mik

                      An argument about how to brew it really teas me off.

                      Jeez Louise.

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      @Mik said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                      An argument about how to brew it really teas me off.

                      Jeez Louise.

                      I'm trying to civilise the nation. I have a dream that one day I'll be able to order a cup of tea in an American cafe, and not be provided with a mug containing warm water and a bag, or even worse, cream.

                      I was only joking

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                        This is my tea gear.
                        tea gear.jpg

                        The thermos is for maté (hot), and the pitcher is for tereré (cold). There are people who get really into it (of course, like anything) and will tell you which yerba is better for maté and which for tereré, and also which type of guampa (the recipient) is best for each one.
                        I just use whatever. For maté, I have some chamomile that I add on top of the yerba, and for tereré I throw mint leaves into the pitcher of ice water.

                        I have a bunch of guampas, some just for decoration, but the two I have here are the ones I actually drink out of. One was hand-carved out of some wood indigenous to Paraguay, and the other is just cheap and metal inside.
                        more tear gear.jpg

                        You really don´t need a guampa/gourd to drink it properly, but I think having a bombilla (the spoon straw thingy) is pretty important. I´m sure people can come up with something comparable, but you can find them cheap online so I´d recommend that if you like maté, get a spoon straw thingy and just stick it in a mug. Additionally, when you are drinking tereré, it makes the whole process so much more refreshing. Whatever you do, avoid any of that maté in tea bags.

                        All that being said, I usually do prefer coffee. 🙂

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                          Nice, Opti! I like that term, "recipient." 😁 With Chinese tea sets, they call the pitcher the fairness cup. The terminology alone is hilarious, and as Phibes would say, in a "reading poetry in the park" kind of way.

                          I've gone back and forth with tea and coffee so many times. But I think now, for me, tea wins out. Simply because you can get jacked on the caffeine, but the theanine in the tea keeps the caffeine from making you feel wired or jittery. So you just feel generally excellent for about 6 hours and no crash.

                          (CULTURAL APPROPRIATION TRIGGER WARNING.) I also bought a gaiwan online for about ten bucks. It's basically just a very specifically-shaped tea cup with a lid. But you use them to brew the tea, not drink out of. I like that they're cheap (because I'm absolutely going to break it), quick and easy to use, stupid easy to clean, and no metal or plastic, no silly filtering required.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            I can't wait until he's old enough to drink beer.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              I can't wait until he's old enough to drink beer.

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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                              I can't wait until he's old enough to drink beer.

                              😄

                              LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT HOMEBREW!!!

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #64

                                Oh Christ, not more jam-jar pictures.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  Oh Christ, not more jam-jar pictures.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                                  Oh Christ, not more jam-jar pictures.

                                  Don't worry, man. After watching a couple of YouTube videos last night, I'm of course now an authority on the matter, and even today I'm working on a video tutorial to illustrate just how wrong you've been all this time. I'll be happy to share!

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    The marketing and ritual is very impressive. I wonder whether the process or the product has more impact on your state of mind.

                                    For non-believers it probably looks like an incredible time suck.

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                                      Oh Christ, not more jam-jar pictures.

                                      Don't worry, man. After watching a couple of YouTube videos last night, I'm of course now an authority on the matter, and even today I'm working on a video tutorial to illustrate just how wrong you've been all this time. I'll be happy to share!

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                                      Oh Christ, not more jam-jar pictures.

                                      Don't worry, man. After watching a couple of YouTube videos last night, I'm of course now an authority on the matter, and even today I'm working on a video tutorial to illustrate just how wrong you've been all this time. I'll be happy to share!

                                      Hey, it's probably no worse than drinking bleach.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • L Loki

                                        The marketing and ritual is very impressive. I wonder whether the process or the product has more impact on your state of mind.

                                        For non-believers it probably looks like an incredible time suck.

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                                        @Loki said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                                        The marketing and ritual is very impressive. I wonder whether the process or the product has more impact on your state of mind.

                                        For non-believers it probably looks like an incredible time suck.

                                        Well it's not supposed to be this grand, ceremonious thing. I'm not talking about getting organic bamboo spoons and cups with jade inlay. The teapot I picked up costs 10 bucks. A one-month tea supply is another 10. And you can do the same process with a french press if you wanted to.

                                        It's just fundamentally different: social vs. "grab it and go." To make it in the way I described, you're going to have a ton of tea that can do 10+ infusions, and the later brews are far better than the first one. So you either waste the hell out of it with your one cup, or find someone to help you drink it to make it worthwhile. As for what's more potent, drinking 10 cups of freaking tea is a hell of a lot different from drinking just the one.

                                        But yeah, I'll allow that that's not the typical American model. (Which is why I'm so ignorant to it.) Diners, Starbucks, Tim Ho's, even Phil'z don't do this.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                                          Oh Christ, not more jam-jar pictures.

                                          Don't worry, man. After watching a couple of YouTube videos last night, I'm of course now an authority on the matter, and even today I'm working on a video tutorial to illustrate just how wrong you've been all this time. I'll be happy to share!

                                          Hey, it's probably no worse than drinking bleach.

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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Okay I can't deny that this completely works:

                                          Oh Christ, not more jam-jar pictures.

                                          Don't worry, man. After watching a couple of YouTube videos last night, I'm of course now an authority on the matter, and even today I'm working on a video tutorial to illustrate just how wrong you've been all this time. I'll be happy to share!

                                          Hey, it's probably no worse than drinking bleach.

                                          Verily, I have seen the light, my friend. And it is now, inside the body. I don't know about ultraviolet, but it is indeed very powerful.

                                          Please love yourself.

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