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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #1

    https://www.reuters.com/world/elon-musks-child-seeks-name-change-sever-ties-with-father-2022-06-21/

    Musk's 18 year old child filed court paper to change name and change gender identification, saying “I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form.”

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      IOW, she's fucked in the head.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
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        #3

        Just saw this today, too. If nothing else, it's an interesting random-ish sampling of how pervasive this gender stuff is becoming.

        That pervasiveness is in turn evidence of how completely programmable humans are, right down to the fundamental stuff you'd think would be hard-wired. Almost nothing is hard-wired. Almost everything is absorbed through one's culture. Including, or most especially, our ideas of morality.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          IOW, she's fucked in the head.

          AxtremusA Offline
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          Axtremus
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @Jolly said in More Elon Drama:

          she's fucked in the head.

          Why do you say that?
          And why have you chosen to use the pronoun "she" in this instance?

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            @Jolly said in More Elon Drama:

            she's fucked in the head.

            Why do you say that?
            And why have you chosen to use the pronoun "she" in this instance?

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            George K
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            #5

            @Axtremus said in More Elon Drama:

            And why have you chosen to use the pronoun "she" in this instance?

            Probably because the article said “her?”

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @Jolly said in More Elon Drama:

              she's fucked in the head.

              Why do you say that?
              And why have you chosen to use the pronoun "she" in this instance?

              JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @Axtremus said in More Elon Drama:

              @Jolly said in More Elon Drama:

              she's fucked in the head.

              Why do you say that?
              And why have you chosen to use the pronoun "she" in this instance?

              Ok. He's fucked in the head.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • CopperC Offline
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                Copper
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                Poor little rich boy becomes poor little rich girl.

                Idiot

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  You know, I heard a very good sermon last night, preached by a man who has been very successful in his vocation and in his life. A few things he said, would send many writhing in spasms. Some examples...

                  1. The man is the leader in a marriage and God entrusts him with the ultimate responsibility to do what is right by his wife and by his children.
                  2. As such, he is the disciplinarian of the children. Not the only one, as others have their roles, but the buck stops with him.
                  3. Because of that, and because to spare the rod spoils the child, sometimes that correction is needed, if other methods fail. That's a father's job. It should never be done in anger or haste, but should be done only when needed and after explaining to your child why it is being done.
                  4. People who were successfully raised to be good and contributing adults, have decided that they would raise their children a different way, abandoning what has worked for centuries. And then they wonder why children are turning out the way they are.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • LarryL Offline
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                    Oh, wow. Another rich, spoiled little shit rebels against his parents..... shocking...

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                    • LarryL Larry

                      Oh, wow. Another rich, spoiled little shit rebels against his parents..... shocking...

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                      Axtremus
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                      @Larry said in More Elon Drama:

                      … rich, spoiled little shit …

                      What information do you rely on to characterize the Musk child as “rich” or “spoiled” or “little” or “shit”?

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @Larry said in More Elon Drama:

                        … rich, spoiled little shit …

                        What information do you rely on to characterize the Musk child as “rich” or “spoiled” or “little” or “shit”?

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                        Larry
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                        #11

                        @Axtremus said in More Elon Drama:

                        @Larry said in More Elon Drama:

                        … rich, spoiled little shit …

                        What information do you rely on to characterize the Musk child as “rich” or “spoiled” or “little” or “shit”?

                        You drool on your shoes. You have to.

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                          Renauda
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                          #12

                          Don’t know why this is in any news feed.

                          It is a family matter. An internal family matter.

                          Nothing more and of no business to anyone outside that family.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            Don’t know why this is in any news feed.

                            It is a family matter. An internal family matter.

                            Nothing more and of no business to anyone outside that family.

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                            #13

                            @Renauda said in More Elon Drama:

                            Don’t know why this is in any news feed.

                            It is a family matter. An internal family matter.

                            Nothing more and of no business to anyone outside that family.

                            The trans person went public with her intent to disassociate from her father. She wanted it to be public, so now it’s public.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @Renauda said in More Elon Drama:

                              Don’t know why this is in any news feed.

                              It is a family matter. An internal family matter.

                              Nothing more and of no business to anyone outside that family.

                              The trans person went public with her intent to disassociate from her father. She wanted it to be public, so now it’s public.

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                              Renauda
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                              @Horace

                              No reason to oblige the person or whatever it is.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
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                                Dunno.

                                People tend to stop, look and comment when the biggest building in town is on fire.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  You know, I heard a very good sermon last night, preached by a man who has been very successful in his vocation and in his life. A few things he said, would send many writhing in spasms. Some examples...

                                  1. The man is the leader in a marriage and God entrusts him with the ultimate responsibility to do what is right by his wife and by his children.
                                  2. As such, he is the disciplinarian of the children. Not the only one, as others have their roles, but the buck stops with him.
                                  3. Because of that, and because to spare the rod spoils the child, sometimes that correction is needed, if other methods fail. That's a father's job. It should never be done in anger or haste, but should be done only when needed and after explaining to your child why it is being done.
                                  4. People who were successfully raised to be good and contributing adults, have decided that they would raise their children a different way, abandoning what has worked for centuries. And then they wonder why children are turning out the way they are.
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                                  taiwan_girl
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                                  #16

                                  @Jolly said in More Elon Drama:

                                  You know, I heard a very good sermon last night, preached by a man who has been very successful in his vocation and in his life. A few things he said, would send many writhing in spasms. Some examples...

                                  1. The man is the leader in a marriage and God entrusts him with the ultimate responsibility to do what is right by his wife and by his children.
                                  2. As such, he is the disciplinarian of the children. Not the only one, as others have their roles, but the buck stops with him.
                                  3. Because of that, and because to spare the rod spoils the child, sometimes that correction is needed, if other methods fail. That's a father's job. It should never be done in anger or haste, but should be done only when needed and after explaining to your child why it is being done.
                                  4. People who were successfully raised to be good and contributing adults, have decided that they would raise their children a different way, abandoning what has worked for centuries. And then they wonder why children are turning out the way they are.

                                  I am not quite writhing in spasms, but only agree with a bit of the above.

                                  There is a tendency among humans to look at the past with very "rose color" glasses. I don't think that human nature or actions have changed very much, but to me, the biggest difference is the availability and quick flow of information.

                                  In the article about the war of 1812, it said that a peace treaty was agreed to, but it took two weeks (or more) for the information to get to the fighters. Now, information is instaneous.

                                  I don't think kids today are better or worse than they were 200 years ago. If someone did something shockingly bad 200 years ago, the circle of information transfer was probably about 5 miles or so. Now, it is worldwide.

                                  Acts of violence were less because the technology was not as "good". Mass killing with a bow and arrow or an axe. Sure, possible, but not as likely. And information (see above) was not as transferable.

                                  In my opinion, people are people, kids are kids. Society changes - some parts have changed for the better, some for the worse. But the net effect is mostly even.

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                                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                    @Jolly said in More Elon Drama:

                                    You know, I heard a very good sermon last night, preached by a man who has been very successful in his vocation and in his life. A few things he said, would send many writhing in spasms. Some examples...

                                    1. The man is the leader in a marriage and God entrusts him with the ultimate responsibility to do what is right by his wife and by his children.
                                    2. As such, he is the disciplinarian of the children. Not the only one, as others have their roles, but the buck stops with him.
                                    3. Because of that, and because to spare the rod spoils the child, sometimes that correction is needed, if other methods fail. That's a father's job. It should never be done in anger or haste, but should be done only when needed and after explaining to your child why it is being done.
                                    4. People who were successfully raised to be good and contributing adults, have decided that they would raise their children a different way, abandoning what has worked for centuries. And then they wonder why children are turning out the way they are.

                                    I am not quite writhing in spasms, but only agree with a bit of the above.

                                    There is a tendency among humans to look at the past with very "rose color" glasses. I don't think that human nature or actions have changed very much, but to me, the biggest difference is the availability and quick flow of information.

                                    In the article about the war of 1812, it said that a peace treaty was agreed to, but it took two weeks (or more) for the information to get to the fighters. Now, information is instaneous.

                                    I don't think kids today are better or worse than they were 200 years ago. If someone did something shockingly bad 200 years ago, the circle of information transfer was probably about 5 miles or so. Now, it is worldwide.

                                    Acts of violence were less because the technology was not as "good". Mass killing with a bow and arrow or an axe. Sure, possible, but not as likely. And information (see above) was not as transferable.

                                    In my opinion, people are people, kids are kids. Society changes - some parts have changed for the better, some for the worse. But the net effect is mostly even.

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    @taiwan_girl said in More Elon Drama:

                                    I don't think kids today are better or worse than they were 200 years ago.

                                    Kids today are better than they were 200 years ago, for at least three reasons:

                                    1. Prenatal care today is much better than prenatal care 200 years ago, therefore today more babies are born healthier/better developed than babies born 200 years ago. (See historical infant mortality rates.)

                                    2. Public health measures and immunization regimes are better and more broadly accessible today than they were 200 years ago. Kids today grow up physically more healthy than kids did 200 years ago. (See historical childhood mortality rates.)

                                    3. Public education and child protection public policies are better today than they were 200 years ago. Much fewer kids get pushed into child labor today than 200 years ago, a lot more kids receive a lot more formal schooling today than 200 years ago, so kids today are generally more literate than kids 200 years ago. (See historical literacy rates.)

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                                      Jolly
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                                      Nothing goes over my head. I would catch it.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Friday
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                                        Does anybody think she will sever ties to the money as well?

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                                          Does anybody think she will sever ties to the money as well?

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                                          @Friday said in More Elon Drama:

                                          Does anybody think she will sever ties to the money as well?

                                          Her mom (Elon’s ex) already got a bunch of money in the divorce.

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