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  • F Offline
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    Friday
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    So, my daughter goes to school in NYC, and as some of you may know, we live in SoCal. When her jury summons came, we asked for her to be excused, because... college student.

    Turns out they don't excuse you if you're a student. What they do is assign kids for when they think they're on break. But my daughter is not planning on coming home this summer, and I'm not going to fly her out just in case she gets called for jury duty.

    It doesn't matter how far away the student is, if their "legal residence " is California, they get summoned to California. So for her to get out of this is to provide 1) a NY driver's license, or 2) a utility bill with her name on it, or 3) a voter's registration for NY state.

    Okay, 1) she lives in NYC; nobody drives there. 2) She lives in an apartment that provides everything; we just pay the monthly rent; also the lease is under my husband's name because she has no credit history. 3) See numbers 1 and 2.

    Last week, I/she gets a notice basically saying if she doesn't submit proper paperwork for the jury duty, there will be repercussions. For 2 days, I've tried calling the 800# on the back, but I cannot get a live person on the phone.

    Does anybody here know what those "repercussions" might be?

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      Mik
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      Just have her get a drivers license or register to vote. Or put a utility in her name. However much hassle it might be it will be better than whatever repercussions.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Catseye3
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        Well, my god, doesn't that sound special.

        "If you do not respond there will be repercussions!

        Call this 800 number, and we will not answer!

        Mmm-waa-ha-ha-ha!"

        The joys of bureaucracies. Multiplied a hideous fold in large cities.

        I wish I could help, but I know of nothing useful. I hope someone here can help you, Friday.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          Jolly
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          They can issue a bench warrant for her.

          But I doubt it.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Horace
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            As you might imagine, I have looked into these repercussions for ignoring summons in CA. My memory is that you basically get one for free, but the next time something bad may happen. By all means, do not take my word for it, but I would be surprised if there were meaningful repercussions for ignoring it this time. I suspect that ignoring those things is very common.

            Education is extremely important.

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              George K
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              “Summons? I never got a summons. “

              “We mailed it. “

              “Hmmm. I never got it. Do you have proof you mailed it…like a receipt or a signature?”

              “We don’t do that.”

              “Sorry. I can’t help you. I never got it. “

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Mik

                Just have her get a drivers license or register to vote. Or put a utility in her name. However much hassle it might be it will be better than whatever repercussions.

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                Friday
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                @Mik said in Jury duty and the college student:

                Just have her get a drivers license or register to vote. Or put a utility in her name. However much hassle it might be it will be better than whatever repercussions.

                I suppose we could rent a car and have her test in Long Island. No way can she pass a driving test in the city. But then she might not be able to get an appointment in time.

                Or maybe she could ask a friend to put her name on a utility for a month. But then that wouldn't take effect until next month.

                Ok, we'll see.

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                • George KG George K

                  “Summons? I never got a summons. “

                  “We mailed it. “

                  “Hmmm. I never got it. Do you have proof you mailed it…like a receipt or a signature?”

                  “We don’t do that.”

                  “Sorry. I can’t help you. I never got it. “

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                  Friday
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                  @George-K said in Jury duty and the college student:

                  “Summons? I never got a summons. “

                  “We mailed it. “

                  “Hmmm. I never got it. Do you have proof you mailed it…like a receipt or a signature?”

                  “We don’t do that.”

                  “Sorry. I can’t help you. I never got it. “

                  I will absolutely do that next time.

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                    Jolly
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                    I'm sorry, but I started coughing last night and now I'm running a fever.

                    Should I come in?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Horace
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                      Doesn't seem like any plan that involves talking to a human being with some authority to do anything, is feasible. This is not surprising for anybody who's ever dealt with CA bureaucracy.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • F Friday

                        @Mik said in Jury duty and the college student:

                        Just have her get a drivers license or register to vote. Or put a utility in her name. However much hassle it might be it will be better than whatever repercussions.

                        I suppose we could rent a car and have her test in Long Island. No way can she pass a driving test in the city. But then she might not be able to get an appointment in time.

                        Or maybe she could ask a friend to put her name on a utility for a month. But then that wouldn't take effect until next month.

                        Ok, we'll see.

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                        @Friday said in Jury duty and the college student:

                        @Mik said in Jury duty and the college student:

                        Just have her get a drivers license or register to vote. Or put a utility in her name. However much hassle it might be it will be better than whatever repercussions.

                        I suppose we could rent a car and have her test in Long Island. No way can she pass a driving test in the city. But then she might not be able to get an appointment in time.

                        Or maybe she could ask a friend to put her name on a utility for a month. But then that wouldn't take effect until next month.

                        Ok, we'll see.

                        I could help her do a drivers test in Westchester. She could take the train up here (30min) and use my car.

                        Probably would still need proof of address for her to get a license. You can check the requirements online easily enough.

                        You were warned.

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                          That is weird. I do not understand why the jury system would not excuse her?

                          I had a US address, but was traveling. I received a jury notice, replied that I was going to be out of the country, etc. and no problem.

                          Maybe a "official" letter from the school indicating that she is a full time enrolled student at that school?

                          To me, it seems like a "no brainer" that the jury system should accept.

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            That is weird. I do not understand why the jury system would not excuse her?

                            I had a US address, but was traveling. I received a jury notice, replied that I was going to be out of the country, etc. and no problem.

                            Maybe a "official" letter from the school indicating that she is a full time enrolled student at that school?

                            To me, it seems like a "no brainer" that the jury system should accept.

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                            Ivorythumper
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                            @taiwan_girl ironically, no brainers require some brains.

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                              Friday
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                              Jon thanks for the generous offer.

                              My daughter will pay a friend's electricity bill for the next 2 months. Let's hope that will do the trick.

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