They Must Be Punished
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@Jolly said in They Must Be Punished:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dhs-punish-border-patrol-agents-haitian-whipping-incident
By announcing that the agents were guilty and needed to be punished, Biden destroyed the credibility of the Department of Homeland Security’s ongoing investigation.
The problem is that the photographer himself quickly stated that it was false and “nobody saw a Border Patrol agent whipping.”
Once debunked, the White House and virtually all of the media went into a familiar radio silence. It was sent to “investigation” and buried.
It is now six months later and the Biden Administration continues to maintain that the agents remain under investigation. Obviously, the falsity of President Biden’s declaration was established within days. It did not take days, let alone months, to determine if the agents did or did not “strap” or whip these migrants.
A classic response to such scandals is to bury them in investigation to wait for public attention to wane. You can do that by changing the question. For example, what began as an investigation into whether agents used reins to whip migrants might be converted into a long investigation into the use of horses in crowd control operations. That will take a lot of time and, when the report is issued, the actual whipping allegation can be buried in a broader policy debate. That will allow the media, as well as the Administration, to focus on the policy as opposed to the personnel involved.
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Somewhat related, but has feels that doesn't align with the outrage here, so consider this a trigger warning.
My cousin is a supervisor for TSA. I believe his station is a Dulles terminal.
Anyway, he gave border patrol a go for awhile. Got trained up, which took awhile, moved out to Arizona. He returned shortly after. He said you would not believe the kind of shit they do to illegal immigrants trying to cross. He said either he was going to have to make hay about it—which he felt would only make things bad for him, not really change things—or get the hell out of there.
So he did. Went back to TSA.
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Let me tell you a secret...ED nurses are among the meanest, almost don't give a crap if you die, health professionals that exist. At least most of them are, especially in bigger, busier hospitals.
They don't start out that way, but a steady diet of GOMERs, crazy people, gang bangers and just nasty folks, turn them that way as a coping mechanism. Eventually, those coping mechanisms collate into a group culture.
I suspect the Border Patrol is the same way. Get rough or get out.
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Let me tell you a secret...ED nurses are among the meanest, almost don't give a crap if you die, health professionals that exist. At least most of them are, especially in bigger, busier hospitals.
They don't start out that way, but a steady diet of GOMERs, crazy people, gang bangers and just nasty folks, turn them that way as a coping mechanism. Eventually, those coping mechanisms collate into a group culture.
I suspect the Border Patrol is the same way. Get rough or get out.
@Jolly said in They Must Be Punished:
Let me tell you a secret...ED nurses are among the meanest, almost don't give a crap if you die, health professionals that exist. At least most of them are, especially in bigger, busier hospitals.
They don't start out that way, but a steady diet of GOMERs, crazy people, gang bangers and just nasty folks, turn them that way as a coping mechanism. Eventually, those coping mechanisms collate into a group culture.
I suspect the Border Patrol is the same way. Get rough or get out.
I'm sure that's true! There's a line, though. Beating people who are already handcuffed is probably not on this side of okay.
Please love yourself.
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@Jolly said in They Must Be Punished:
Let me tell you a secret...ED nurses are among the meanest, almost don't give a crap if you die, health professionals that exist. At least most of them are, especially in bigger, busier hospitals.
They don't start out that way, but a steady diet of GOMERs, crazy people, gang bangers and just nasty folks, turn them that way as a coping mechanism. Eventually, those coping mechanisms collate into a group culture.
I suspect the Border Patrol is the same way. Get rough or get out.
I'm sure that's true! There's a line, though. Beating people who are already handcuffed is probably not on this side of okay.
@Aqua-Letifer said in They Must Be Punished:
Beating people who are already handcuffed is probably not on this side of okay
Yup.
But it didn't happen in this case.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in They Must Be Punished:
Beating people who are already handcuffed is probably not on this side of okay
Yup.
But it didn't happen in this case.
@George-K said in They Must Be Punished:
@Aqua-Letifer said in They Must Be Punished:
Beating people who are already handcuffed is probably not on this side of okay
Yup.
But it didn't happen in this case.
It did not.
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@Jolly said in They Must Be Punished:
Let me tell you a secret...ED nurses are among the meanest, almost don't give a crap if you die, health professionals that exist. At least most of them are, especially in bigger, busier hospitals.
They don't start out that way, but a steady diet of GOMERs, crazy people, gang bangers and just nasty folks, turn them that way as a coping mechanism. Eventually, those coping mechanisms collate into a group culture.
I suspect the Border Patrol is the same way. Get rough or get out.
I'm sure that's true! There's a line, though. Beating people who are already handcuffed is probably not on this side of okay.
@Aqua-Letifer said in They Must Be Punished:
@Jolly said in They Must Be Punished:
Let me tell you a secret...ED nurses are among the meanest, almost don't give a crap if you die, health professionals that exist. At least most of them are, especially in bigger, busier hospitals.
They don't start out that way, but a steady diet of GOMERs, crazy people, gang bangers and just nasty folks, turn them that way as a coping mechanism. Eventually, those coping mechanisms collate into a group culture.
I suspect the Border Patrol is the same way. Get rough or get out.
I'm sure that's true! There's a line, though. Beating people who are already handcuffed is probably not on this side of okay.
You know, you're right. But depending on the situation, I could see being pissed enough to wail on somebody who was cuffed.
Our ED was tough enough, it had it's own jail cell. Cops hauled a drunk, jacked-up idiot in one night, after he managed to drive his car into some parked cars on a residential street. Guy was cursing loudly and just being a bit wild.
Anyway, we checked him out, I drew the blood alcohol and a couple of other things, and he was nice and drunk, along with a sprinkling of meth.
Doc said he wasn't bad enough to keep and gave him back to the cops. As they were taking him out of the cell, he spit in the cop's face. Cop just wiped it off and put the drunk in the cruiser.
About two hours later, the cops brought the guy back in. According to the story, he had gone nuts in his cell, running into the bars. Repeatedly. And some more.
Sure is a shame what folks will do when they're drunk.
