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    Catseye3
    wrote on 15 Jun 2022, 20:03 last edited by Catseye3
    #72

    I'm a little worried that this may be a stupid question, but who exactly are these people talking to? Their own group(s) must be enlightened already, so it would be silly to go through all this for them. Are they talking to you as an unenlighted white male supremicist? Are there that many of you that this dog and pony show was necessary? If yes, then this is a pretty condescending, not to mention juvenile, way to go about your re-education and BTW, who the fuck do they think they are???

    What do they hope to accomplish? If this had taken place in an auditorium, were you supposed to go galloping up the aisle, tears streaming, shouting, "I believe! I believe!"

    I am beginning to suspect that Aqua's gentle reminder that I am out of the loop was justified, cuz you know what? I don't really get it.

    Added later: Or is this whole thing just self indulgence? No other reason to do it than to entertain themselves like kids in recess? Needed a grownup reason to actually just do what they'd do anyway?

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • H Horace
      15 Jun 2022, 19:48

      That's about it. Nothing too cringey tbh. If that one young lady had been allowed to, she'd have taken it there, but cooler heads prevailed. In the wrap-up the D&I coordinator implored everybody to take the lessons they learned today and teach them to their children.

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      Copper
      wrote on 15 Jun 2022, 20:56 last edited by
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      @Horace said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

      Nothing too cringey

      Sorry, the whole thing is cringey

      The whole thing

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        15 Jun 2022, 20:56

        @Horace said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

        Nothing too cringey

        Sorry, the whole thing is cringey

        The whole thing

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        Horace
        wrote on 15 Jun 2022, 22:01 last edited by
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        @Copper said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

        @Horace said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

        Nothing too cringey

        Sorry, the whole thing is cringey

        The whole thing

        Sure but I’m grading the cringe on a curve. It could have been a lot worse.

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          Mik
          wrote on 15 Jun 2022, 22:14 last edited by
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          That's rather like saying it is good because the electric chair killed him quickly.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Horace
            wrote on 15 Jun 2022, 22:34 last edited by
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            This year we got July 4 off but not Juneteenth. I think that preference for holidays is coming under the microscope. Corporate won’t just add another day for Juneteenth, presumably, but they may trade July 4 for it. Probably don’t want to trade MLK day for it. The other viable option is Presidents’ Day. Nobody cares about that one.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 15 Jun 2022, 23:48 last edited by
              #77

              Nah they’ll whack Good Friday.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • H Horace
                15 Jun 2022, 22:34

                This year we got July 4 off but not Juneteenth. I think that preference for holidays is coming under the microscope. Corporate won’t just add another day for Juneteenth, presumably, but they may trade July 4 for it. Probably don’t want to trade MLK day for it. The other viable option is Presidents’ Day. Nobody cares about that one.

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                Horace
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                • J jon-nyc
                  15 Jun 2022, 23:48

                  Nah they’ll whack Good Friday.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 16 Jun 2022, 00:03 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                  Nah they’ll whack Good Friday.

                  We don't get that one.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 16 Jun 2022, 01:01 last edited by
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                    Too late! They probably already swapped it for indigenous peoples day

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on 18 Jun 2022, 00:29 last edited by
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                      Hmm, like @Renauda never heard of this day until today.

                      While I "kind" of understand it, there are also a lot of important days in history that are not national holidays. :woman-shrugging:

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 18 Jun 2022, 02:19 last edited by
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                        The two VPs I was most familiar with through my career were both gay, but it was never a thing with either of them. Just something everybody knew about and nobody cared about. They both retired early this year, just in time to not be involved with this new thing where they're supposed to be public and proud representatives of their people. What a shittily awkward position to be put in. Not everybody is down with this identitarian stuff, even those who ostensibly gain cultural credibility with the claim to it.

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                        • H Horace
                          18 Jun 2022, 02:19

                          The two VPs I was most familiar with through my career were both gay, but it was never a thing with either of them. Just something everybody knew about and nobody cared about. They both retired early this year, just in time to not be involved with this new thing where they're supposed to be public and proud representatives of their people. What a shittily awkward position to be put in. Not everybody is down with this identitarian stuff, even those who ostensibly gain cultural credibility with the claim to it.

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 18 Jun 2022, 02:22 last edited by
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                          @Horace said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                          The two VPs I was most familiar with through my career were both gay, but it was never a thing with either of them. Just something everybody knew about and nobody cared about. They both retired early this year, just in time to not be involved with this new thing where they're supposed to be public and proud representatives of their people. What a shittily awkward position to be put in. Not everybody is down with this identitarian stuff, even those who ostensibly gain cultural credibility with the claim to it.

                          Someone I work with is currently raising shit that we're not off on Monday for Juneteenth. It's like bro, shut the fuck up, you're a contractor. You don't get paid if you don't show up, which by the way is always your option.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 18 Jun 2022, 02:28 last edited by
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                            Contractors don’t get to have opinions on personnel matters.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • M Mik
                              18 Jun 2022, 02:28

                              Contractors don’t get to have opinions on personnel matters.

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 18 Jun 2022, 02:39 last edited by Aqua Letifer
                              #85

                              @Mik said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                              Contractors don’t get to have opinions on personnel matters.

                              Which they shouldn't even care about. But of course this is about leveraging power through minority PR, not personnel or a holiday. So, have fun with your alienation, man, I hope the pariah thing works out for you.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 18 Jun 2022, 02:43 last edited by
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                                Again, a poor strategy for temporary resources.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • M Mik
                                  18 Jun 2022, 02:43

                                  Again, a poor strategy for temporary resources.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on 18 Jun 2022, 02:44 last edited by
                                  #87

                                  @Mik said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                                  Again, a poor strategy for temporary resources.

                                  Absolutely! Probably applies to the whole woke debacle in general, too.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    Catseye3
                                    wrote on 19 Jun 2022, 23:48 last edited by
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                                    Had a thought about Juneteenth, and this is the closest thread I could find.

                                    Today's Google Doodle is of a group of blacks noodling around in a park or something. All black faces, no whites.

                                    It occurred to me to wonder, aren't whites allowed to commemorate Juneteenth? Isn't it reasonable to suppose that the end of slavery of human beings is also a source of gladness for whites?

                                    In fact, in a much, much less abhorrent and frightful way, were not whites also liberated at that time from the onus of owning humans?

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    • C Catseye3
                                      19 Jun 2022, 23:48

                                      Had a thought about Juneteenth, and this is the closest thread I could find.

                                      Today's Google Doodle is of a group of blacks noodling around in a park or something. All black faces, no whites.

                                      It occurred to me to wonder, aren't whites allowed to commemorate Juneteenth? Isn't it reasonable to suppose that the end of slavery of human beings is also a source of gladness for whites?

                                      In fact, in a much, much less abhorrent and frightful way, were not whites also liberated at that time from the onus of owning humans?

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 00:34 last edited by
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                                      @Catseye3 said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                                      Had a thought about Juneteenth, and this is the closest thread I could find.

                                      Today's Google Doodle is of a group of blacks noodling around in a park or something. All black faces, no whites.

                                      It occurred to me to wonder, aren't whites allowed to commemorate Juneteenth? Isn't it reasonable to suppose that the end of slavery of human beings is also a source of gladness for whites?

                                      In fact, in a much, much less abhorrent and frightful way, were not whites also liberated at that time from the onus of owning humans?

                                      You're about 30 years behind where the narrative has strayed to.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 00:57 last edited by
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                                        The status of Juneteenth is a sad commentary.

                                        You think it is divisive now?

                                        It is, very divisive.

                                        Just wait until it is cancelled.

                                        It is just as inevitable as Roe's cancellation.

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                                          20 Jun 2022, 00:34

                                          @Catseye3 said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                                          Had a thought about Juneteenth, and this is the closest thread I could find.

                                          Today's Google Doodle is of a group of blacks noodling around in a park or something. All black faces, no whites.

                                          It occurred to me to wonder, aren't whites allowed to commemorate Juneteenth? Isn't it reasonable to suppose that the end of slavery of human beings is also a source of gladness for whites?

                                          In fact, in a much, much less abhorrent and frightful way, were not whites also liberated at that time from the onus of owning humans?

                                          You're about 30 years behind where the narrative has strayed to.

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                                          Catseye3
                                          wrote on 20 Jun 2022, 01:30 last edited by
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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Juneteenth/pride virtual event at work:

                                          You're about 30 years behind where the narrative has strayed to.

                                          Well, that is alarming, if true.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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