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    xenon
    wrote on last edited by xenon
    #18

    As for my personal opinion - I think the quaint notion of Republicans and Democrats is disintegrating right before our eyes.

    Social media has elevated to the "fifth estate" to a really strong spot. It's being cheered by many right now - not for long, I think.

    This is a social and political change on the scale of the printing press - which helped foster the creation of the modern nation state as we know it (from a time when political power was more concentrated at the city level)

    We're at the beginning of a wild ride - and most national governments are not set up to cope.

    I don't think the Founding Fathers thought through what happens when the fourth estate doesn't work anymore.

    But that's just my opinion.

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    • X xenon

      As for my personal opinion - I think the quaint notion of Republicans and Democrats is disintegrating right before our eyes.

      Social media has elevated to the "fifth estate" to a really strong spot. It's being cheered by many right now - not for long, I think.

      This is a social and political change on the scale of the printing press - which helped foster the creation of the modern nation state as we know it (from a time when political power was more concentrated at the city level)

      We're at the beginning of a wild ride - and most national governments are not set up to cope.

      I don't think the Founding Fathers thought through what happens when the fourth estate doesn't work anymore.

      But that's just my opinion.

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      Larry
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      #19

      @xenon said in Hangover:

      As for my personal opinion - I think the quaint notion of Republicans and Democrats is disintegrating right before our eyes.

      Social media has elevated to the "fifth estate" to a really strong spot. It's being cheered by many right now - not for long, I think.

      This is a social change on the scale scale of the printing press.

      Which helped foster the creation of the modern nation state as we know it - from a time when political power was more concentrated at the city level.

      We're at the beginning of a wild ride - and most national governments are not set up to cope.

      But that's just my opinion.

      You are failing to factor in a few things. For one, most of the "change being "elevated to the fifth estate" on social media consists of a bunch of simple minded kids who looked up from their game controller just long enough to tell mommy to make him a sammich and then regurgitate the same stupid shit his peers said because he wants to feel like he's fitting in with the rest. At some point this little shit for brains will have to put down the game controller and get a job. Once that happens at least half of them will grow up enough to figure out how stupid they were. Most of us here saw it happen in the late 60s. They were going to change the world too.

      It is a royal fool who pines for the "creation of a modern nation". You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen. That's why everyone else wants to come here. Concentrating political power at the city level to run an entire nation is about the dumbest thing I've heard today.

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      • LarryL Larry

        @xenon said in Hangover:

        As for my personal opinion - I think the quaint notion of Republicans and Democrats is disintegrating right before our eyes.

        Social media has elevated to the "fifth estate" to a really strong spot. It's being cheered by many right now - not for long, I think.

        This is a social change on the scale scale of the printing press.

        Which helped foster the creation of the modern nation state as we know it - from a time when political power was more concentrated at the city level.

        We're at the beginning of a wild ride - and most national governments are not set up to cope.

        But that's just my opinion.

        You are failing to factor in a few things. For one, most of the "change being "elevated to the fifth estate" on social media consists of a bunch of simple minded kids who looked up from their game controller just long enough to tell mommy to make him a sammich and then regurgitate the same stupid shit his peers said because he wants to feel like he's fitting in with the rest. At some point this little shit for brains will have to put down the game controller and get a job. Once that happens at least half of them will grow up enough to figure out how stupid they were. Most of us here saw it happen in the late 60s. They were going to change the world too.

        It is a royal fool who pines for the "creation of a modern nation". You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen. That's why everyone else wants to come here. Concentrating political power at the city level to run an entire nation is about the dumbest thing I've heard today.

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        xenon
        wrote on last edited by xenon
        #20

        @Larry I must really suck at writing.

        The printing press helped foster the nation state as a political construct.

        Before that city-states were the dominant political entities.

        As common languages and ideas solidified - common identity began to coalesce across cities into a nation.

        Re-read what I said with that in mind.

        I’m saying the nation-state as a concept is under threat from social media.

        No one is trying to start a modern nation state or city state.

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        • LarryL Larry

          @xenon said in Hangover:

          As for my personal opinion - I think the quaint notion of Republicans and Democrats is disintegrating right before our eyes.

          Social media has elevated to the "fifth estate" to a really strong spot. It's being cheered by many right now - not for long, I think.

          This is a social change on the scale scale of the printing press.

          Which helped foster the creation of the modern nation state as we know it - from a time when political power was more concentrated at the city level.

          We're at the beginning of a wild ride - and most national governments are not set up to cope.

          But that's just my opinion.

          You are failing to factor in a few things. For one, most of the "change being "elevated to the fifth estate" on social media consists of a bunch of simple minded kids who looked up from their game controller just long enough to tell mommy to make him a sammich and then regurgitate the same stupid shit his peers said because he wants to feel like he's fitting in with the rest. At some point this little shit for brains will have to put down the game controller and get a job. Once that happens at least half of them will grow up enough to figure out how stupid they were. Most of us here saw it happen in the late 60s. They were going to change the world too.

          It is a royal fool who pines for the "creation of a modern nation". You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen. That's why everyone else wants to come here. Concentrating political power at the city level to run an entire nation is about the dumbest thing I've heard today.

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          Klaus
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          #21

          @Larry said in Hangover:

          You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen.

          How does that square with the fact that the people in that "greatest nation" vote, often with a majority, for people who are according to you the greatest idiots on earth?

          Will it still be the greatest nation if Biden wins?

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            Jolly
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            #22

            Because the country is going to Hell on greased rails. At least most of Western Europe is ahead of us...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Because the country is going to Hell on greased rails. At least most of Western Europe is ahead of us...

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              xenon
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              @Jolly from a religious perspective? We’re awash in material plenty, from a historical perspective.

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                Doctor Phibes
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                #24

                Blimey, you lot are a bloody cheerful bunch.

                Once again, Civilization HANGS BY A THREAD, AND ONLY ONE MAN CAN SAVE US...........and you're not going to freaking believe what he looks like!

                I was only joking

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                • X xenon

                  @Larry I must really suck at writing.

                  The printing press helped foster the nation state as a political construct.

                  Before that city-states were the dominant political entities.

                  As common languages and ideas solidified - common identity began to coalesce across cities into a nation.

                  Re-read what I said with that in mind.

                  I’m saying the nation-state as a concept is under threat from social media.

                  No one is trying to start a modern nation state or city state.

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                  Larry
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #25

                  @xenon said in Hangover:

                  @Larry I must really suck at writing.

                  The printing press helped foster the nation state as a political construct.

                  Before that city-states were the dominant political entities.

                  As common languages and ideas solidified - common identity began to coalesce across cities into a nation.

                  Re-read what I said with that in mind.

                  I’m saying the nation-state as a concept is under threat from social media.

                  No one is trying to start a modern nation state or city state.

                  You spend too much time navel gazing over nonsense and not enough time getting to the meat of a problem. I don't give a damn about printing presses and city states. None of that has a damned thing to do with this.

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                  • LarryL Larry

                    @xenon said in Hangover:

                    @Larry I must really suck at writing.

                    The printing press helped foster the nation state as a political construct.

                    Before that city-states were the dominant political entities.

                    As common languages and ideas solidified - common identity began to coalesce across cities into a nation.

                    Re-read what I said with that in mind.

                    I’m saying the nation-state as a concept is under threat from social media.

                    No one is trying to start a modern nation state or city state.

                    You spend too much time navel gazing over nonsense and not enough time getting to the meat of a problem. I don't give a damn about printing presses and city states. None of that has a damned thing to do with this.

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                    xenon
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                    #26

                    @Larry right, right - I know, I know... we need to kill half the country.

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                    • KlausK Klaus

                      @Larry said in Hangover:

                      You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen.

                      How does that square with the fact that the people in that "greatest nation" vote, often with a majority, for people who are according to you the greatest idiots on earth?

                      Will it still be the greatest nation if Biden wins?

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                      Larry
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #27

                      @Klaus said in Hangover:

                      @Larry said in Hangover:

                      You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen.

                      How does that square with the fact that the people in that "greatest nation" vote, often with a majority, for people who are according to you the greatest idiots on earth?

                      Will it still be the greatest nation if Biden wins?

                      No, if Biden wins the country is toast, because the idiot has no principles. He just wants to be president before his mind is totally shot. He will hand things over to whatever leftist group he's told to.

                      As for the idiots voting, I already said that their numbers are growing, and will continue to grow, eventually outnumbering people with goid sense.

                      It seems that 3 people, one from England, on from Germany, and one from India think they have this all figured out. All 3 of you need to spend your time fixing the mess your country is in instead of telling me how mine should be run.

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                      • X xenon

                        @Larry right, right - I know, I know... we need to kill half the country.

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                        Larry
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                        #28

                        @xenon said in Hangover:

                        @Larry right, right - I know, I know... we need to kill half the country.

                        I didn't say that. But it doesn't surprise me that that was all you got from it.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          Blimey, you lot are a bloody cheerful bunch.

                          Once again, Civilization HANGS BY A THREAD, AND ONLY ONE MAN CAN SAVE US...........and you're not going to freaking believe what he looks like!

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          #29

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Hangover:

                          Blimey, you lot are a bloody cheerful bunch.

                          Once again, Civilization HANGS BY A THREAD, AND ONLY ONE MAN CAN SAVE US...........and you're not going to freaking believe what he looks like!

                          4Chan rhetoric.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • LarryL Larry

                            @Klaus said in Hangover:

                            @Larry said in Hangover:

                            You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen.

                            How does that square with the fact that the people in that "greatest nation" vote, often with a majority, for people who are according to you the greatest idiots on earth?

                            Will it still be the greatest nation if Biden wins?

                            No, if Biden wins the country is toast, because the idiot has no principles. He just wants to be president before his mind is totally shot. He will hand things over to whatever leftist group he's told to.

                            As for the idiots voting, I already said that their numbers are growing, and will continue to grow, eventually outnumbering people with goid sense.

                            It seems that 3 people, one from England, on from Germany, and one from India think they have this all figured out. All 3 of you need to spend your time fixing the mess your country is in instead of telling me how mine should be run.

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                            xenon
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                            #30

                            @Larry I'm not from India.

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                            • X xenon

                              @Larry I'm not from India.

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                              Larry
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #31

                              @xenon said in Hangover:

                              @Larry I'm not from India.

                              That's a shame. At least you'd have an excuse..

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #32

                                It’s even worse, he’s a Canuck

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • LarryL Larry

                                  @Klaus said in Hangover:

                                  @Larry said in Hangover:

                                  You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen.

                                  How does that square with the fact that the people in that "greatest nation" vote, often with a majority, for people who are according to you the greatest idiots on earth?

                                  Will it still be the greatest nation if Biden wins?

                                  No, if Biden wins the country is toast, because the idiot has no principles. He just wants to be president before his mind is totally shot. He will hand things over to whatever leftist group he's told to.

                                  As for the idiots voting, I already said that their numbers are growing, and will continue to grow, eventually outnumbering people with goid sense.

                                  It seems that 3 people, one from England, on from Germany, and one from India think they have this all figured out. All 3 of you need to spend your time fixing the mess your country is in instead of telling me how mine should be run.

                                  Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #33

                                  @Larry said in Hangover:

                                  @Klaus said in Hangover:

                                  @Larry said in Hangover:

                                  You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen.

                                  How does that square with the fact that the people in that "greatest nation" vote, often with a majority, for people who are according to you the greatest idiots on earth?

                                  Will it still be the greatest nation if Biden wins?

                                  No, if Biden wins the country is toast, because the idiot has no principles. He just wants to be president before his mind is totally shot. He will hand things over to whatever leftist group he's told to.

                                  As for the idiots voting, I already said that their numbers are growing, and will continue to grow, eventually outnumbering people with goid sense.

                                  It seems that 3 people, one from England, on from Germany, and one from India think they have this all figured out. All 3 of you need to spend your time fixing the mess your country is in instead of telling me how mine should be run.

                                  Actually, you're the one who thinks he has it all figured out. I'm just making stupid jokes. I know, I know, we all come to TNCR to save the world, but sometimes I need an evening off.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    It’s even worse, he’s a Canuck

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                                    Larry
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #34

                                    @jon-nyc said in Hangover:

                                    It’s even worse, he’s a Canuck

                                    Oh god, no wonder...

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                                      Larry
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #35

                                      Phibes, I don't pretend to have it all figured out - but at least I can still tell shit from shinola.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #36

                                        I was once kicked out of a minstrel show for lowering the tone even more than normal.

                                        I was only joking

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                                          Larry
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #37

                                          Ah, but have you ever been kicked out of the Girl Scouts for eating brownies?

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