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  • X xenon

    @Larry I think the demand now for socialism is greater than 2016. It’ll probably be even higher in 2024.

    Unless Trump is tamping down the desire for these things - he’s failing according to your own metrics.

    (Unless you think there will be Trumps elected somehow into perpetuity)

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    Larry
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    @xenon said in Hangover:

    @Larry I think the demand now for socialism is greater than 2016. It’ll probably be even higher in 2024.

    Unless Trump is tamping down the desire for these things - he’s failing according to your own metrics.

    (Unless you think there will be Trumps elected somehow into perpetuity)

    Of course it is. Those of us who have sense enough to understand how this nation built itself won't be around much longer, and there will be yet another generation of shit for brains idiots becoming old enough to vote. Eventually, Socialism will win out, and America with everything it came to be will be gone. Within a decade or so, it will turn into just another 3rd worl country, most likely 3 separate ones, and people will be starving to death just like they are in Venezuela. It will be too late for those is us who tried to warn everyone to say I told you so though, we will be gone. By the next generation after that, the great nation standing here now will be just another mention in history books.

    Weep for your children.

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      I say of course it is, but I'm not sure I believe that, actually. All the noise about Socialism is being made by a very vocal minority. There just may be enough people who still have functioning brains to go to war with the idiot Left. If they do, and then kick California end New York on up out, they m8ght save the nation.

      But is Socialism becoming more popular?... nah.

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        And with that, maybe now you understand why I say modern liberalism was a mental disease, and today's Left needs to be driven into a corral and set fire to.

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            #17

            I don't see how this business of Trump refusing to leave the office can be considered in any serious way. It's absurd on its face, to begin with. It's taking Orange Man Bad over the rainbow.

            Do the people who worry about this think Trump could bring this off by himself? Do they think he'd find enough support inside the Beltway for doing this? Most of all, how do they think he would do the job of president? Do they think Congress would pay any attention to anything he says, simply because of a declaration? Do they think that's all that would be required? "I'm not leaving!" "Oh, okay then."

            I'm not sure how much more weirding out I can take before my head shoots off my shoulders and flies around the room like a balloon, making that ph-h-h-h-t noise. .

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              xenon
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              #18

              As for my personal opinion - I think the quaint notion of Republicans and Democrats is disintegrating right before our eyes.

              Social media has elevated to the "fifth estate" to a really strong spot. It's being cheered by many right now - not for long, I think.

              This is a social and political change on the scale of the printing press - which helped foster the creation of the modern nation state as we know it (from a time when political power was more concentrated at the city level)

              We're at the beginning of a wild ride - and most national governments are not set up to cope.

              I don't think the Founding Fathers thought through what happens when the fourth estate doesn't work anymore.

              But that's just my opinion.

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              • X xenon

                As for my personal opinion - I think the quaint notion of Republicans and Democrats is disintegrating right before our eyes.

                Social media has elevated to the "fifth estate" to a really strong spot. It's being cheered by many right now - not for long, I think.

                This is a social and political change on the scale of the printing press - which helped foster the creation of the modern nation state as we know it (from a time when political power was more concentrated at the city level)

                We're at the beginning of a wild ride - and most national governments are not set up to cope.

                I don't think the Founding Fathers thought through what happens when the fourth estate doesn't work anymore.

                But that's just my opinion.

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                #19

                @xenon said in Hangover:

                As for my personal opinion - I think the quaint notion of Republicans and Democrats is disintegrating right before our eyes.

                Social media has elevated to the "fifth estate" to a really strong spot. It's being cheered by many right now - not for long, I think.

                This is a social change on the scale scale of the printing press.

                Which helped foster the creation of the modern nation state as we know it - from a time when political power was more concentrated at the city level.

                We're at the beginning of a wild ride - and most national governments are not set up to cope.

                But that's just my opinion.

                You are failing to factor in a few things. For one, most of the "change being "elevated to the fifth estate" on social media consists of a bunch of simple minded kids who looked up from their game controller just long enough to tell mommy to make him a sammich and then regurgitate the same stupid shit his peers said because he wants to feel like he's fitting in with the rest. At some point this little shit for brains will have to put down the game controller and get a job. Once that happens at least half of them will grow up enough to figure out how stupid they were. Most of us here saw it happen in the late 60s. They were going to change the world too.

                It is a royal fool who pines for the "creation of a modern nation". You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen. That's why everyone else wants to come here. Concentrating political power at the city level to run an entire nation is about the dumbest thing I've heard today.

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                • LarryL Larry

                  @xenon said in Hangover:

                  As for my personal opinion - I think the quaint notion of Republicans and Democrats is disintegrating right before our eyes.

                  Social media has elevated to the "fifth estate" to a really strong spot. It's being cheered by many right now - not for long, I think.

                  This is a social change on the scale scale of the printing press.

                  Which helped foster the creation of the modern nation state as we know it - from a time when political power was more concentrated at the city level.

                  We're at the beginning of a wild ride - and most national governments are not set up to cope.

                  But that's just my opinion.

                  You are failing to factor in a few things. For one, most of the "change being "elevated to the fifth estate" on social media consists of a bunch of simple minded kids who looked up from their game controller just long enough to tell mommy to make him a sammich and then regurgitate the same stupid shit his peers said because he wants to feel like he's fitting in with the rest. At some point this little shit for brains will have to put down the game controller and get a job. Once that happens at least half of them will grow up enough to figure out how stupid they were. Most of us here saw it happen in the late 60s. They were going to change the world too.

                  It is a royal fool who pines for the "creation of a modern nation". You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen. That's why everyone else wants to come here. Concentrating political power at the city level to run an entire nation is about the dumbest thing I've heard today.

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                  #20

                  @Larry I must really suck at writing.

                  The printing press helped foster the nation state as a political construct.

                  Before that city-states were the dominant political entities.

                  As common languages and ideas solidified - common identity began to coalesce across cities into a nation.

                  Re-read what I said with that in mind.

                  I’m saying the nation-state as a concept is under threat from social media.

                  No one is trying to start a modern nation state or city state.

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                  • LarryL Larry

                    @xenon said in Hangover:

                    As for my personal opinion - I think the quaint notion of Republicans and Democrats is disintegrating right before our eyes.

                    Social media has elevated to the "fifth estate" to a really strong spot. It's being cheered by many right now - not for long, I think.

                    This is a social change on the scale scale of the printing press.

                    Which helped foster the creation of the modern nation state as we know it - from a time when political power was more concentrated at the city level.

                    We're at the beginning of a wild ride - and most national governments are not set up to cope.

                    But that's just my opinion.

                    You are failing to factor in a few things. For one, most of the "change being "elevated to the fifth estate" on social media consists of a bunch of simple minded kids who looked up from their game controller just long enough to tell mommy to make him a sammich and then regurgitate the same stupid shit his peers said because he wants to feel like he's fitting in with the rest. At some point this little shit for brains will have to put down the game controller and get a job. Once that happens at least half of them will grow up enough to figure out how stupid they were. Most of us here saw it happen in the late 60s. They were going to change the world too.

                    It is a royal fool who pines for the "creation of a modern nation". You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen. That's why everyone else wants to come here. Concentrating political power at the city level to run an entire nation is about the dumbest thing I've heard today.

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                    Klaus
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                    #21

                    @Larry said in Hangover:

                    You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen.

                    How does that square with the fact that the people in that "greatest nation" vote, often with a majority, for people who are according to you the greatest idiots on earth?

                    Will it still be the greatest nation if Biden wins?

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                      Because the country is going to Hell on greased rails. At least most of Western Europe is ahead of us...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Because the country is going to Hell on greased rails. At least most of Western Europe is ahead of us...

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                        xenon
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                        @Jolly from a religious perspective? We’re awash in material plenty, from a historical perspective.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          Blimey, you lot are a bloody cheerful bunch.

                          Once again, Civilization HANGS BY A THREAD, AND ONLY ONE MAN CAN SAVE US...........and you're not going to freaking believe what he looks like!

                          I was only joking

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                          • X xenon

                            @Larry I must really suck at writing.

                            The printing press helped foster the nation state as a political construct.

                            Before that city-states were the dominant political entities.

                            As common languages and ideas solidified - common identity began to coalesce across cities into a nation.

                            Re-read what I said with that in mind.

                            I’m saying the nation-state as a concept is under threat from social media.

                            No one is trying to start a modern nation state or city state.

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                            Larry
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                            @xenon said in Hangover:

                            @Larry I must really suck at writing.

                            The printing press helped foster the nation state as a political construct.

                            Before that city-states were the dominant political entities.

                            As common languages and ideas solidified - common identity began to coalesce across cities into a nation.

                            Re-read what I said with that in mind.

                            I’m saying the nation-state as a concept is under threat from social media.

                            No one is trying to start a modern nation state or city state.

                            You spend too much time navel gazing over nonsense and not enough time getting to the meat of a problem. I don't give a damn about printing presses and city states. None of that has a damned thing to do with this.

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                            • LarryL Larry

                              @xenon said in Hangover:

                              @Larry I must really suck at writing.

                              The printing press helped foster the nation state as a political construct.

                              Before that city-states were the dominant political entities.

                              As common languages and ideas solidified - common identity began to coalesce across cities into a nation.

                              Re-read what I said with that in mind.

                              I’m saying the nation-state as a concept is under threat from social media.

                              No one is trying to start a modern nation state or city state.

                              You spend too much time navel gazing over nonsense and not enough time getting to the meat of a problem. I don't give a damn about printing presses and city states. None of that has a damned thing to do with this.

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                              xenon
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                              @Larry right, right - I know, I know... we need to kill half the country.

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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                @Larry said in Hangover:

                                You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen.

                                How does that square with the fact that the people in that "greatest nation" vote, often with a majority, for people who are according to you the greatest idiots on earth?

                                Will it still be the greatest nation if Biden wins?

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                                Larry
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                                #27

                                @Klaus said in Hangover:

                                @Larry said in Hangover:

                                You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen.

                                How does that square with the fact that the people in that "greatest nation" vote, often with a majority, for people who are according to you the greatest idiots on earth?

                                Will it still be the greatest nation if Biden wins?

                                No, if Biden wins the country is toast, because the idiot has no principles. He just wants to be president before his mind is totally shot. He will hand things over to whatever leftist group he's told to.

                                As for the idiots voting, I already said that their numbers are growing, and will continue to grow, eventually outnumbering people with goid sense.

                                It seems that 3 people, one from England, on from Germany, and one from India think they have this all figured out. All 3 of you need to spend your time fixing the mess your country is in instead of telling me how mine should be run.

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                                • X xenon

                                  @Larry right, right - I know, I know... we need to kill half the country.

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                                  @xenon said in Hangover:

                                  @Larry right, right - I know, I know... we need to kill half the country.

                                  I didn't say that. But it doesn't surprise me that that was all you got from it.

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    Blimey, you lot are a bloody cheerful bunch.

                                    Once again, Civilization HANGS BY A THREAD, AND ONLY ONE MAN CAN SAVE US...........and you're not going to freaking believe what he looks like!

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Hangover:

                                    Blimey, you lot are a bloody cheerful bunch.

                                    Once again, Civilization HANGS BY A THREAD, AND ONLY ONE MAN CAN SAVE US...........and you're not going to freaking believe what he looks like!

                                    4Chan rhetoric.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • LarryL Larry

                                      @Klaus said in Hangover:

                                      @Larry said in Hangover:

                                      You're already sitting in the greatest nation the world has ever seen.

                                      How does that square with the fact that the people in that "greatest nation" vote, often with a majority, for people who are according to you the greatest idiots on earth?

                                      Will it still be the greatest nation if Biden wins?

                                      No, if Biden wins the country is toast, because the idiot has no principles. He just wants to be president before his mind is totally shot. He will hand things over to whatever leftist group he's told to.

                                      As for the idiots voting, I already said that their numbers are growing, and will continue to grow, eventually outnumbering people with goid sense.

                                      It seems that 3 people, one from England, on from Germany, and one from India think they have this all figured out. All 3 of you need to spend your time fixing the mess your country is in instead of telling me how mine should be run.

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                                      xenon
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                                      @Larry I'm not from India.

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                                      • X xenon

                                        @Larry I'm not from India.

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                                        Larry
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                                        @xenon said in Hangover:

                                        @Larry I'm not from India.

                                        That's a shame. At least you'd have an excuse..

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                                          It’s even worse, he’s a Canuck

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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