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  • MikM Mik

    @Catseye3 said in On Growing Old:

    Expanding on Mik's observation that the alternative is better than dying. I replied that yesterday I'd have given him an argument about that.

    Been thinking about this recently.

    For me, one of the hardest things about growing old is how little your previous life prepares you for it. Almost anything that happens to you before you get into O country, you can relate it to something else that's familiar -- whether from your own life or a friend's or history or whatever else that works. There is a note of familiarity that you can apply that helps you cope.

    After O, everything unpleasant hits you in the face. There's an unexpectedness, even though you should know better. You go, whoa, that's new . . . It's not that you've never heard of it, it's that you never heard of it happening to you.

    Example from TNCR. The RIPs of people who you've known -- okay, "known" -- your whole life. As long as you can remember, they've been a part of your existential awareness. Often I read an RIP and go, wait, no, that wasn't supposed to happen! Like it couldn't happen to someone just because I knew him. Tim Conway, Kobe Bryant. There's always an element of surprised shock.

    Changes in yourself. Saw my hand recently and before I knew it I was going, jeebus, whose hand is that???

    Can you relate? Or are y'all more philosophical about it?

    Well, it's not like we really get a choice. You can either enjoy the time you have or worry about the end of it. That will come regardless of your worry.

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    @Mik Yep, Mik's the philopher. 🙂

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      What's a philopher? 😆

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        The reason why young kids think their parents know so much is because they intuit that their parents are more comfortable with change and the unexpected. I'd argue there's nothing new about that.

        Please love yourself.

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        • MikM Mik

          What's a philopher? 😆

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          @Mik said in On Growing Old:

          What's a philopher?

          Um . . . it's a philosopher who's missing his ass S.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • MikM Mik

            What's a philopher? 😆

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            @Mik said in On Growing Old:

            What's a philopher? 😆

            A bald guy who wears tatty sweaters and tries to get your kids into Leninism.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Catseye3C Catseye3

              @Mik said in On Growing Old:

              What's a philopher?

              Um . . . it's a philosopher who's missing his ass S.

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              @Catseye3 said in On Growing Old:

              @Mik said in On Growing Old:

              What's a philopher?

              Um . . . it's a philosopher who's missing his ass S.

              So....

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                I've wandered around hospitals most of my adult life and seen more people die than Cecil B. DeMille. And my wife has been from anywhere relatively normal to a wheelchair and everywhere in between at one time or another.

                I'm familiar with old. 😕 It's not the optimum, but it is what happens if you live long enough. Best advice I can give, is have something you need or want to do, every morning you get up. It can be a big project or a very small one. But get up and move.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  I've wandered around hospitals most of my adult life and seen more people die than Cecil B. DeMille. And my wife has been from anywhere relatively normal to a wheelchair and everywhere in between at one time or another.

                  I'm familiar with old. 😕 It's not the optimum, but it is what happens if you live long enough. Best advice I can give, is have something you need or want to do, every morning you get up. It can be a big project or a very small one. But get up and move.

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                  @Jolly said in On Growing Old:

                  But get up and move.

                  I'm not depressed about getting old, exactly. I'm just cogitating on aspects that are more difficult than I had realized they would be.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    I've wandered around hospitals most of my adult life and seen more people die than Cecil B. DeMille. And my wife has been from anywhere relatively normal to a wheelchair and everywhere in between at one time or another.

                    I'm familiar with old. 😕 It's not the optimum, but it is what happens if you live long enough. Best advice I can give, is have something you need or want to do, every morning you get up. It can be a big project or a very small one. But get up and move.

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                    @Jolly said in On Growing Old:

                    I've wandered around hospitals most of my adult life and seen more people die than Cecil B. DeMille. And my wife has been from anywhere relatively normal to a wheelchair and everywhere in between at one time or another.

                    I'm familiar with old. 😕 It's not the optimum, but it is what happens if you live long enough. Best advice I can give, is have something you need or want to do, every morning you get up. It can be a big project or a very small one. But get up and move.

                    Yep. Things that don't move stagnate.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                      @Jolly said in On Growing Old:

                      But get up and move.

                      I'm not depressed about getting old, exactly. I'm just cogitating on aspects that are more difficult than I had realized they would be.

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                      @Catseye3 said in On Growing Old:

                      @Jolly said in On Growing Old:

                      But get up and move.

                      I'm not depressed about getting old, exactly. I'm just cogitating on aspects that are more difficult than I had realized they would be.

                      Years ago, I built a carport and storeroom onto the house...I cut the timber, helped saw it and friends helped me build it. Ain't no way I could even build the forms for the slab (well, maybe, if you held a gun on me ). Anyway, the old man that finished the slab, worked and rounded the concrete up to the backdoor, instead of the normal one inch or so drop.

                      He looked at me and said, "Son, one day you'll be old, too. Nice to be able to wheel a walker or wheelchair through without having to pick it up".

                      I wish I had been smart like that about the whole house.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @Jolly said in On Growing Old:

                        I've wandered around hospitals most of my adult life and seen more people die than Cecil B. DeMille. And my wife has been from anywhere relatively normal to a wheelchair and everywhere in between at one time or another.

                        I'm familiar with old. 😕 It's not the optimum, but it is what happens if you live long enough. Best advice I can give, is have something you need or want to do, every morning you get up. It can be a big project or a very small one. But get up and move.

                        Yep. Things that don't move stagnate.

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                        @Mik said in On Growing Old:

                        Yep. Things that don't move stagnate.

                        That's what I tell my wife about the beer in the fridge.

                        I was only joking

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                          A couple of years ago I just decided I wasn’t going to do that old man thing. I keep active and busy and don’t think about growing old. I don’t celebrate my birthday since I treat everyday as my birthday.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @Mik said in On Growing Old:

                            Yep. Things that don't move stagnate.

                            That's what I tell my wife about the beer in the fridge.

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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in On Growing Old:

                            @Mik said in On Growing Old:

                            Yep. Things that don't move stagnate.

                            That's what I tell my wife about the beer in the fridge.

                            It is especially true for beer.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • RenaudaR Renauda

                              A couple of years ago I just decided I wasn’t going to do that old man thing. I keep active and busy and don’t think about growing old. I don’t celebrate my birthday since I treat everyday as my birthday.

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                              @Renauda said in On Growing Old:

                              A couple of years ago I just decided I wasn’t going to do that old man thing. I keep active and busy and don’t think about growing old. I don’t celebrate my birthday since I treat everyday as my birthday.

                              Your time is coming.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @Renauda said in On Growing Old:

                                A couple of years ago I just decided I wasn’t going to do that old man thing. I keep active and busy and don’t think about growing old. I don’t celebrate my birthday since I treat everyday as my birthday.

                                Your time is coming.

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                                @Jolly

                                Am older than you.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • RenaudaR Renauda

                                  @Jolly

                                  Am older than you.

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                                  @Renauda said in On Growing Old:

                                  @Jolly

                                  Am older than you.

                                  Get off my lawn, youngster.

                                  I'm probably the oldest person here (72).

                                  What's pathetic is that your mind is OK, but your body says, "Fuck YOU." Going for walks, sitting on a horse, etc are so much more difficult than they were 5 years ago.

                                  My health is actually pretty good - all issues seem to be well-controlled with medications, but the deterioration is relentless, and it really PISSES me off.

                                  Fearful of turning 60 @Doctor-Phibes ?

                                  I laugh in your face.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    @Jolly

                                    Am older than you.

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                                    @Renauda said in On Growing Old:

                                    @Jolly

                                    Am older than you.

                                    You're only as old as you feel.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @Renauda said in On Growing Old:

                                      @Jolly

                                      Am older than you.

                                      You're only as old as you feel.

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                                      @Jolly

                                      I also have watched my weight and kept in fairly good shape all these years.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        @George-K said in On Growing Old:

                                        @Renauda said in On Growing Old:

                                        @Jolly

                                        Am older than you.

                                        Get off my lawn, youngster.

                                        I'm probably the oldest person here (72).

                                        What's pathetic is that your mind is OK, but your body says, "Fuck YOU." Going for walks, sitting on a horse, etc are so much more difficult than they were 5 years ago.

                                        My health is actually pretty good - all issues seem to be well-controlled with medications, but the deterioration is relentless, and it really PISSES me off.

                                        Fearful of turning 60 @Doctor-Phibes ?

                                        I laugh in your face.

                                        I’m not Phibes, and I turned 60 some years ago. I happily take full advantage of senior discounts at stores and venues. And yes there are times that Rub A355 is my friend. Haven’t gone as far as DSMO ointment like a few of my friends. Had sciatica attack last June after spending a morning up a ladder dead heading the Lilac bushes. Won’t do that again. To hell with dead heading lilacs. Never enjoyed gardening, don’t and won’t miss it.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @George-K said in On Growing Old:

                                          @Renauda said in On Growing Old:

                                          @Jolly

                                          Am older than you.

                                          Get off my lawn, youngster.

                                          I'm probably the oldest person here (72).

                                          What's pathetic is that your mind is OK, but your body says, "Fuck YOU." Going for walks, sitting on a horse, etc are so much more difficult than they were 5 years ago.

                                          My health is actually pretty good - all issues seem to be well-controlled with medications, but the deterioration is relentless, and it really PISSES me off.

                                          Fearful of turning 60 @Doctor-Phibes ?

                                          I laugh in your face.

                                          I’m not Phibes, and I turned 60 some years ago. I happily take full advantage of senior discounts at stores and venues. And yes there are times that Rub A355 is my friend. Haven’t gone as far as DSMO ointment like a few of my friends. Had sciatica attack last June after spending a morning up a ladder dead heading the Lilac bushes. Won’t do that again. To hell with dead heading lilacs. Never enjoyed gardening, don’t and won’t miss it.

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                                          @Renauda said in On Growing Old:

                                          To hell with dead heading lilacs. Never enjoyed gardening, don’t and won’t miss it.

                                          Indeed. I've always hated any kind of yard work.

                                          F-Dat.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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