Resigned
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wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 01:19 last edited by
OTOH, the gentleman who fell, knew exactly what he was doing. He was a long time advocate for certain causes and a veteran protester.
He was told at least four times to move. He insisted on not doing so. Cops are trained not to let anybody get as close as he got, in a clearing operation. He not only got too ckose, he then dropped his hand...That's too close for weapon retention, so he had to be bumped away.
I'm sorry he got his head bounced off of the ground, but if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
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wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 01:21 last edited by
BTW, isn't this the same Buffalo where the car slammed into the cops this past week, breaking the pelvis of a state trooper?
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wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 01:38 last edited by
I’ve been curious about the video editing in this case. Looks like the clip starts the millisecond the cop starts to push and doesn’t show what led up to it. Maybe not a coincidence. Maybe more will come out.
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I’ve been curious about the video editing in this case. Looks like the clip starts the millisecond the cop starts to push and doesn’t show what led up to it. Maybe not a coincidence. Maybe more will come out.
wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 01:41 last edited byI’ve been curious about the video editing in this case. Looks like the clip starts the millisecond the cop starts to push and doesn’t show what led up to it. Maybe not a coincidence. Maybe more will come out.
There's a longer one out there. He definitely approached the officers as they started to clear the street.
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wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 01:52 last edited by
He approached them somewhat aggressively, did not back off when told to and then did something looking like touching the weapon. You don’t do that. His fall looked a bit staged, but may not have been.
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He approached them somewhat aggressively, did not back off when told to and then did something looking like touching the weapon. You don’t do that. His fall looked a bit staged, but may not have been.
wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 01:59 last edited byHe approached them somewhat aggressively, did not back off when told to and then did something looking like touching the weapon. You don’t do that. His fall looked a bit staged, but may not have been.
Dude is 75. Depending on his condition, that could explain both the weird behavior and the fall. Apparently he is a social activist but he's not known for aggression.
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wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 02:03 last edited by
Doddering old fool. The shove was not much but doesn't take much to make someone that age lose their balance. My FIL (age 81) fell last year trying to lift a suitcase into my wife's car to go to the airport. Landed flat on his back and fortunately was able to keep his head from hitting the pavement.
I am not sure what the police are supposed to do if one old person can completely stop their maneuver. Sadly, they should have grabbed him and cuffed him and then he would not have fallen. Would have taken just a few seconds probably.
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wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 02:09 last edited by
And they had plenty of other officers behind them to take up the slack while one or two took care of him.
It's my understanding that when there's an accident and the police are present, their first duty is to act as a first responder until someone more medically qualified arrives. Is this not the case?
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And they had plenty of other officers behind them to take up the slack while one or two took care of him.
It's my understanding that when there's an accident and the police are present, their first duty is to act as a first responder until someone more medically qualified arrives. Is this not the case?
wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 02:15 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Resigned:
And they had plenty of other officers behind them to take up the slack while one or two took care of him.
It's my understanding that when there's an accident and the police are present, their first duty is to act as a first responder until someone more medically qualified arrives. Is this not the case?
No.
The mission is paramount. EMS personnel were in the immediate vicinity and they were called.
Riot and crowd control work is not normal police work.