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The case against an off-ramp

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      I agree with him for the most part.

      I am not sure about his claim that Russians will simply go along (or pretend to go along) with whatever fake reality Putin foist onto them via state controlled media. Would anyone more familiar with the Russian mindset than I kindly comment on this point? ( @Renauda ?)

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        I agree with him for the most part.

        I am not sure about his claim that Russians will simply go along (or pretend to go along) with whatever fake reality Putin foist onto them via state controlled media. Would anyone more familiar with the Russian mindset than I kindly comment on this point? ( @Renauda ?)

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        @Axtremus said in The case against an off-ramp:

        I agree with him for the most part.

        I am not sure about his claim that Russians will simply go along (or pretend to go along) with whatever fake reality Putin foist onto them via state controlled media. Would anyone more familiar with the Russian mindset kindly comment on this point? (@Renauda?)

        Mr Snyder would take very personally any claim he is not familiar with the Russian mindset.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Who is Mr Snyder?

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            A historian with a book on Ukraine to sell.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Who is Mr Snyder?

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              @jon-nyc said in The case against an off-ramp:

              Who is Mr Snyder?

              He is a genius historian. I remember seeing him on Maher once after Trump was elected. He was there to promote On Tyranny, which was a thinly veiled slippery slope diatribe, aimed at Trump and his supporters.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                I agree with him for the most part.

                I am not sure about his claim that Russians will simply go along (or pretend to go along) with whatever fake reality Putin foist onto them via state controlled media. Would anyone more familiar with the Russian mindset than I kindly comment on this point? ( @Renauda ?)

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                @Axtremus said in The case against an off-ramp:

                I agree with him for the most part.

                I am not sure about his claim that Russians will simply go along (or pretend to go along) with whatever fake reality Putin foist onto them via state controlled media. Would anyone more familiar with the Russian mindset than I kindly comment on this point? ( @Renauda ?)

                For most part I would agree - especially outside the two big cities Moscow and St. Petersburg. Over time though it may erode owing to dead bodies, wounded and economic hardship. Depends how Putin’s this war continues.

                Despite his presentations on pop culture TV critical of contemporary North American demagoguery and populism, Snyder is no slouch on Russian and Ukrainian history. His book, Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin , an a highly regarded historical monograph.

                Elbows up!

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