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Pretty much everything has gone that way, from jobs to parenting to law enforcement. There's the letter of the law or rule, and that's it. No room for exercising judgement.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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Another family member was constructively dismissed (i.e. they made up a load of shit about him and fired him) from a big retail place after he needed to take stress-related leave.
I admit I celebrated a little when they went out of business.
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Pretty much everything has gone that way, from jobs to parenting to law enforcement. There's the letter of the law or rule, and that's it. No room for exercising judgement.
@Mik said in Seen on linked in:
Pretty much everything has gone that way, from jobs to parenting to law enforcement. There's the letter of the law or rule, and that's it. No room for exercising judgement.
We're building our own Babel.
Please love yourself.
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@Horace said in Seen on linked in:
I think that's quite an indictment of her own manager(s), who she never afforded the opportunity to do the human thing in this case and let the guy have some personal time one way or another, without getting fired. It must be a small company to have no policy for emergency medical leave and such. But if it's a small company, why the inhuman approach? That means the owner is a monster. Why work at a small company where the owner is a monster? That means you're a truly bottom rung human being, which I suspect this person does not consider themselves to be. So, what is wrong with this story, if anything? I get that large organizations can become inhuman in their policies, but emergency leave is common enough.
I've told this story before, but my SIL was unfairly let go after being treated absolutely terribly in a small company - she was being treated for a serious illness at the time. The guy who had to do the actual firing committed suicide in his office a year or so later.
It's not always as simple as 'why don't you get another job?'
@Doctor-Phibes said in Seen on linked in:
@Horace said in Seen on linked in:
I think that's quite an indictment of her own manager(s), who she never afforded the opportunity to do the human thing in this case and let the guy have some personal time one way or another, without getting fired. It must be a small company to have no policy for emergency medical leave and such. But if it's a small company, why the inhuman approach? That means the owner is a monster. Why work at a small company where the owner is a monster? That means you're a truly bottom rung human being, which I suspect this person does not consider themselves to be. So, what is wrong with this story, if anything? I get that large organizations can become inhuman in their policies, but emergency leave is common enough.
I've told this story before, but my SIL was unfairly let go after being treated absolutely terribly in a small company - she was being treated for a serious illness at the time. The guy who had to do the actual firing committed suicide in his office a year or so later.
It's not always as simple as 'why don't you get another job?'
I was more speaking to the fierce pride this person has in their chosen actions. The attitude of "if this is wrong, I don't want to be right". If the company she is participating in and helping to succeed, has inhumane rules, then is she in fact operating ethically in her life? If ethics are a red line issue for her, and she believes she is forced to violate that line by following the rules of those who pay her, then isn't it as simple as finding a new job? She didn't even trust the humans above her on the chain to operate humanely towards their employees, and is willing to steal money from the company in the process of circumventing those rules. It's not her signature on the fraudulently claimed paychecks, after all. My issue with her holier than thou humble brag of a story, is that she did not allow the organization to prove itself humane, but rather assumed it would not be. Yet knowing this, and being a person to whom ethics is everything, she continued to participate in that organization, and cash its paychecks.
Education is extremely important.
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I do see an element of cowardice in this person's actions. Her chosen course was invisible to everybody other than her report, who would have loved her for it. The only risk she took was in getting caught, a risk she was in a position to weigh. It may have been all but zero. It was a social gain for her to enact her righteous and fraudulent plan, and it came at no cost, financial or otherwise. She even ended up bragging about it in a linkedin post that went so viral that I saw it. (Universally lauded, of course. Ps. This person works in HR and is a white female 'diversity' executive.)
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I do see an element of cowardice in this person's actions. Her chosen course was invisible to everybody other than her report, who would have loved her for it. The only risk she took was in getting caught, a risk she was in a position to weigh. It may have been all but zero. It was a social gain for her to enact her righteous and fraudulent plan, and it came at no cost, financial or otherwise. She even ended up bragging about it in a linkedin post that went so viral that I saw it. (Universally lauded, of course. Ps. This person works in HR and is a white female 'diversity' executive.)
@Horace said in Seen on linked in:
I do see an element of cowardice in this person's actions. Her chosen course was invisible to everybody other than her report, who would have loved her for it. The only risk she took was in getting caught, a risk she was in a position to weigh. It may have been all but zero. It was a social gain for her to enact her righteous and fraudulent plan, and it came at no cost, financial or otherwise. She even ended up bragging about it in a linkedin post that went so viral that I saw it. (Universally lauded, of course. Ps. This person works in HR and is a white female 'diversity' executive.)
This sort of thing is very common on LinkedIn. I mean who tells a personal story in this way? Have you ever had this happen on a phone conversation?
"Hello?"
"Horace, 'My wife tried to kill herself yesterday.' These are not the words you expect to hear when checking on an employee. It was not the only time this would happen in my career..."When guys do it it's broetry. When the right team does it's compassion. It's all shite.
I like reading posts from folks who are at least savvy enough to know the tropes and play around with them.
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I have no problem with her actions if she felt they were truly necessary up and until she posted about it. Then it’s no longer about doing the right thing, it’s about her telling people she did the right thing.
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I have no problem with her actions if she felt they were truly necessary up and until she posted about it. Then it’s no longer about doing the right thing, it’s about her telling people she did the right thing.
@LuFins-Dad said in Seen on linked in:
I have no problem with her actions if she felt they were truly necessary up and until she posted about it. Then it’s no longer about doing the right thing, it’s about her telling people she did the right thing.
Welcome to LinkedIn!
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Seen on linked in:
@Horace said in Seen on linked in:
I think that's quite an indictment of her own manager(s), who she never afforded the opportunity to do the human thing in this case and let the guy have some personal time one way or another, without getting fired. It must be a small company to have no policy for emergency medical leave and such. But if it's a small company, why the inhuman approach? That means the owner is a monster. Why work at a small company where the owner is a monster? That means you're a truly bottom rung human being, which I suspect this person does not consider themselves to be. So, what is wrong with this story, if anything? I get that large organizations can become inhuman in their policies, but emergency leave is common enough.
I've told this story before, but my SIL was unfairly let go after being treated absolutely terribly in a small company - she was being treated for a serious illness at the time. The guy who had to do the actual firing committed suicide in his office a year or so later.
It's not always as simple as 'why don't you get another job?'
I was more speaking to the fierce pride this person has in their chosen actions. The attitude of "if this is wrong, I don't want to be right". If the company she is participating in and helping to succeed, has inhumane rules, then is she in fact operating ethically in her life? If ethics are a red line issue for her, and she believes she is forced to violate that line by following the rules of those who pay her, then isn't it as simple as finding a new job? She didn't even trust the humans above her on the chain to operate humanely towards their employees, and is willing to steal money from the company in the process of circumventing those rules. It's not her signature on the fraudulently claimed paychecks, after all. My issue with her holier than thou humble brag of a story, is that she did not allow the organization to prove itself humane, but rather assumed it would not be. Yet knowing this, and being a person to whom ethics is everything, she continued to participate in that organization, and cash its paychecks.
@Horace said in Seen on linked in:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Seen on linked in:
@Horace said in Seen on linked in:
I think that's quite an indictment of her own manager(s), who she never afforded the opportunity to do the human thing in this case and let the guy have some personal time one way or another, without getting fired. It must be a small company to have no policy for emergency medical leave and such. But if it's a small company, why the inhuman approach? That means the owner is a monster. Why work at a small company where the owner is a monster? That means you're a truly bottom rung human being, which I suspect this person does not consider themselves to be. So, what is wrong with this story, if anything? I get that large organizations can become inhuman in their policies, but emergency leave is common enough.
I've told this story before, but my SIL was unfairly let go after being treated absolutely terribly in a small company - she was being treated for a serious illness at the time. The guy who had to do the actual firing committed suicide in his office a year or so later.
It's not always as simple as 'why don't you get another job?'
I was more speaking to the fierce pride this person has in their chosen actions. The attitude of "if this is wrong, I don't want to be right". If the company she is participating in and helping to succeed, has inhumane rules, then is she in fact operating ethically in her life? If ethics are a red line issue for her, and she believes she is forced to violate that line by following the rules of those who pay her, then isn't it as simple as finding a new job? She didn't even trust the humans above her on the chain to operate humanely towards their employees, and is willing to steal money from the company in the process of circumventing those rules. It's not her signature on the fraudulently claimed paychecks, after all. My issue with her holier than thou humble brag of a story, is that she did not allow the organization to prove itself humane, but rather assumed it would not be. Yet knowing this, and being a person to whom ethics is everything, she continued to participate in that organization, and cash its paychecks.
Oh, I see what you mean. Yes, her hypocritical virtue signaling is extremely tiresome.
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@Mik said in Seen on linked in:
Pretty much everything has gone that way, from jobs to parenting to law enforcement. There's the letter of the law or rule, and that's it. No room for exercising judgement.
We're building our own Babel.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Seen on linked in:
@Mik said in Seen on linked in:
Pretty much everything has gone that way, from jobs to parenting to law enforcement. There's the letter of the law or rule, and that's it. No room for exercising judgement.
We're building our own Babel.
Yeppers.
