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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/cuba-s-failing-dictatorship-just-got-propped-up-by-the-biden-administration-thanks-mr-president-editorial/ar-AAXojJ9?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=98e2eb6bb1f64693bdc9d77af3fe6e10

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Doctor Phibes
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      #2

      60 years of isolating Cuba clearly hasn't worked - so let's continue doing that!

      I was only joking

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        #3

        I don't know...Miami's economy seems to be doing pretty well...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          #4

          What hasn't worked?

          I believe the missiles are still gone.

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          • CopperC Copper

            What hasn't worked?

            I believe the missiles are still gone.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            #5

            @Copper said in Biden restores Obama era concessions to Cuba:

            What hasn't worked?

            I believe the missiles are still gone.

            The one Soviet-era dictatorship still in existence.

            I thought the point was to get rid of it.

            The point has to come when you decide trying something different might be worth a go.

            I was only joking

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            • MikM Offline
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              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              We did try, during the Obama administration. It didn't work.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              • CopperC Offline
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                If we fix Cuba we get another tropical paradise.

                We don't really need another tropical paradise. The Bahamas and Mexico are loaded with them.

                Even with a steady flow of first world tourists, the people that live in these paradises don't exactly live in luxury.

                Cuba is good example of failed communism, maybe that is the preferred role for them.

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                • MikM Mik

                  We did try, during the Obama administration. It didn't work.

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                  @Mik said in Biden restores Obama era concessions to Cuba:

                  We did try, during the Obama administration. It didn't work.

                  According to the article you linked too, Biden is trying something new — allowing Americans to invest in Cuba. Maybe give that a decade or two and see how it plays out.

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    @Mik said in Biden restores Obama era concessions to Cuba:

                    We did try, during the Obama administration. It didn't work.

                    According to the article you linked too, Biden is trying something new — allowing Americans to invest in Cuba. Maybe give that a decade or two and see how it plays out.

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                    Ivorythumper
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                    @Axtremus said in Biden restores Obama era concessions to Cuba:

                    @Mik said in Biden restores Obama era concessions to Cuba:

                    We did try, during the Obama administration. It didn't work.

                    According to the article you linked too, Biden is trying something new — allowing Americans to invest in Cuba. Maybe give that a decade or two and see how it plays out.

                    Link to video

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                    • MikM Mik

                      We did try, during the Obama administration. It didn't work.

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                      #10

                      @Mik said in Biden restores Obama era concessions to Cuba:

                      We did try, during the Obama administration. It didn't work.

                      You tried the other approach for a lot longer, and it didn't work either.

                      I don't think Trump canceled it because it wasn't working.

                      We all know this is all about getting votes from certain demographics.

                      I was only joking

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                        I was always surprised (actually I guess not really surprised) about the US foreign policy v Cuba

                        Cuba

                        • dictatorship
                        • government controlled economy
                        • human rights violator
                          etc

                        mainland China

                        • dictatorship
                        • government controlled economy
                        • human rights violator
                          etc

                        Any differences between how we treat the two? LOL

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          I was always surprised (actually I guess not really surprised) about the US foreign policy v Cuba

                          Cuba

                          • dictatorship
                          • government controlled economy
                          • human rights violator
                            etc

                          mainland China

                          • dictatorship
                          • government controlled economy
                          • human rights violator
                            etc

                          Any differences between how we treat the two? LOL

                          JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          @taiwan_girl said in Biden restores Obama era concessions to Cuba:

                          I was always surprised (actually I guess not really surprised) about the US foreign policy v Cuba

                          Cuba

                          • dictatorship
                          • government controlled economy
                          • human rights violator
                            etc

                          mainland China

                          • dictatorship
                          • government controlled economy
                          • human rights violator
                            etc

                          Any differences between how we treat the two? LOL

                          Any distance difference?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @taiwan_girl said in Biden restores Obama era concessions to Cuba:

                            I was always surprised (actually I guess not really surprised) about the US foreign policy v Cuba

                            Cuba

                            • dictatorship
                            • government controlled economy
                            • human rights violator
                              etc

                            mainland China

                            • dictatorship
                            • government controlled economy
                            • human rights violator
                              etc

                            Any differences between how we treat the two? LOL

                            Any distance difference?

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on last edited by taiwan_girl
                            #13

                            @Jolly Any economic difference?

                            Money talks.

                            Do you really think that if the US stops sanctions against Cuba, all of a sudden Russia (or China or DPRK) will suddenly think that is an okay to place military or weapons on Cuba?

                            It is politics and money for the sanctions at this point in history.

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