Dobbs observations a few days on
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@jon-nyc said in Dobbs observations a few days on:
@George-K said in Dobbs observations a few days on:
Wanna make abortion the law of the land? Simple - Codify it.
You can't codify it? Elect people who will, because democracy.
Everything else is political scaremongering.
That really doesn’t follow. It actually is possible that people are getting inferior care than they did pre-Dobbs due to legal concerns of physicians and hospitals.
I'd have to be shown. Several of the stories Ax has posted along these lines turn out to be Surgery Centers, hospitals without OB departments. etc.
I've never seen a hospital with a functioning OB Unit turn away a patient such as Ax is describing. It's what those guys do...Care for pregnant women.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@Jolly said in Dobbs observations a few days on:
@jon-nyc said in Dobbs observations a few days on:
@George-K said in Dobbs observations a few days on:
Wanna make abortion the law of the land? Simple - Codify it.
You can't codify it? Elect people who will, because democracy.
Everything else is political scaremongering.
That really doesn’t follow. It actually is possible that people are getting inferior care than they did pre-Dobbs due to legal concerns of physicians and hospitals.
I'd have to be shown. Several of the stories Ax has posted along these lines turn out to be Surgery Centers, hospitals without OB departments. etc.
I've never seen a hospital with a functioning OB Unit turn away a patient such as Ax is describing. It's what those guys do...Care for pregnant women.
Doesn't change the trend that pregnant women are getting less care. Even when hospitals with OB units continue to provide care, more surgical centers and more hospitals without OB units turning away pregnant patients still means pregnant patients are getting less care. You can also add on something you yourself mention every now and then, that more and more hospitals are closing down their OB units, which makes the problem even worse. The Dobbs ruling ain't helping with getting more OB units opened.
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Marked increase of young people getting sterilization surgeries after Dobbs:
... look at how many 18- to 30-year-olds were getting sterilized before and after the ruling.
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They found sharp increases in both male and female sterilization. Tubal ligations doubled from June 2022 to September 2023, and vasectomies increased over three times during that same time ...Tubal ligations among young people had been slowly rising for years, but the ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization had a discernible impact. ...
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@Axtremus said in Dobbs observations a few days on:
@Jolly said in Dobbs observations a few days on:
@jon-nyc said in Dobbs observations a few days on:
@George-K said in Dobbs observations a few days on:
Wanna make abortion the law of the land? Simple - Codify it.
You can't codify it? Elect people who will, because democracy.
Everything else is political scaremongering.
That really doesn’t follow. It actually is possible that people are getting inferior care than they did pre-Dobbs due to legal concerns of physicians and hospitals.
I'd have to be shown. Several of the stories Ax has posted along these lines turn out to be Surgery Centers, hospitals without OB departments. etc.
I've never seen a hospital with a functioning OB Unit turn away a patient such as Ax is describing. It's what those guys do...Care for pregnant women.
Doesn't change the trend that pregnant women are getting less care. Even when hospitals with OB units continue to provide care, more surgical centers and more hospitals without OB units turning away pregnant patients still means pregnant patients are getting less care. You can also add on something you yourself mention every now and then, that more and more hospitals are closing down their OB units, which makes the problem even worse. The Dobbs ruling ain't helping with getting more OB units opened.
Stick to computers.
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Louisiana Reclassifies Drugs Used in Abortions as Controlled Dangerous Substances
Mifepristone and misoprostol.
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Woman charged with murder for taking abortion pill sues prosecutors
About one of the prosecutors sued:
Earlier this year, Ramirez agreed to pay a $1,250 fine under a settlement reached with the State Bar of Texas and to have his license held in a probated suspension for 12 months for his prosecution of acts clearly not criminal under state law. He remains the Starr County district attorney.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/08/13/texas-ectopic-pregnancy-abortion/
Two women filed complaints against Texas hospitals they allege turned them away for emergency care, risking their lives and violating federal law.
In a complaint to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Kyleigh Thurman said that in February 2023, Ascension Seton Williamson Hospital in Round Rock, Tex., discharged her without treating her ectopic pregnancy or transferring her to another hospital. It denied her treatment again when she returned days later with vaginal bleeding, she said.
The delay caused her fallopian tube to rupture, she said. According to the complaint, the hospital treated her only after her OB/GYN “pleaded” with staff to provide the necessary care.
“For weeks, I was in and out of emergency rooms trying to get the abortion that I needed to save my future fertility and life,” ... -
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The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in Dobbs observations a few days on:
Ectopic pregnancies are not "aborted." The treatment is surgical intervention via laparoscopy. It is a surgical emergency, worthy of being done at 2AM.
THere's something missing in this story.
Yep. The word "ectopic" immediately causes a bood banker to start glancing at frig shelves.
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/21/health/infant-deaths-increase-post-dobbs-abortion-bans/index.html
Infants died at higher rates after abortion bans in the US, research shows
In the year and a half following the Supreme Court Dobbs decision that revoked the federal right to an abortion, hundreds more infants died than expected in the United States, new research shows. The vast majority of those infants had congenital anomalies, or birth defects.
The JAMA paper backing the above:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2825201
