2000 Mules
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@Jolly said in 2000 Mules:
I think "substantive" is a pertinent term. Many of the cases brought to court, lacked standing in one way or another and weren't even heard. It is true that some cases couldn't be proven...That is the refuge of a scoundrel in one sense, since the best fraud is very hard to prove...Biden's hockey stick win (so-called because of the timing of the votes) is somewhat unprecedented and a definite, unexplainable phenomenon.
Prior to the 2016 election, pretty much every poll said that Hillary Clinton would win, President Trump had no chance. Well, he won. Fraudulent victory? I dont think so.
Prior to 2020 election, polls were pretty close. Could go either way. President Biden won? Fraudulent victory. I dont think so.
It is human nature to try and give some outside reason when something does not go the way a person wants it to.
You dropped the fly baseball? "Yes, the sun was in my eyes, the wind blew dust in my face, etc" rather than "I misjudged it and dropped it."
Why did you run into the back of my car? "There was ice on the road. The sun glared off the window" rather than "I was texting and not paying attention."
Why did you get an F on the test? "The teacher hates me. The test covered things we didn't talk about in class." rather than "I didn't pay attention in class and did not study."
Why did you lose the election? "There was fraud. It was stolen." rather than "More people liked the other candidate and voted for him."
As Mik said in a unrelated thread (but I liked the quote).
Maybe there is just no there, there.
Sometimes the correct answer is the most obvious. President Trump lost because more people thought President Biden would do a better job and therefore President Biden got more votes. End of story.
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@taiwan_girl said in 2000 Mules:
Prior to the 2016 election, pretty much every poll said that Hillary Clinton would win, President Trump had no chance. Well, he won. Fraudulent victory?
The Dems thought they had it in the bag. They didn't try as hard to cheat and were caught by surprise. No way they were going to let that happen in 2020.
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@Ivorythumper said in 2000 Mules:
@jon-nyc said in 2000 Mules:
Trump lost, you’re in a cult.
Without addressing any of Jolly’s credible allegations regarding media manipulation and information suppression, to jump to the ad hom is a losing strategy if you’re interested in maintaining reputational credibility.
But you already know that.
TDS is an emotional truth that doesn’t need to be substantiated. In fact one of the defining features of TDS is the assumption that it doesn’t need to be justified. The most perfect expression of this was when I heard a comedian absolutely destroy with a joke about how the worst part of Donald Trump is that he’s Donald Trump. Donald Fucking Trump. The audience could barely breath through their belly laughs after the 10th repetition.